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#1 duckhook02

 
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:34 PM

I see that the RBZ Stage 2 fairways are already discounted at golf stores. Normally that means a new release is on the way...however, I haven't heard anything yet. And aren't the Stage 2 fairways still pretty new?

What am I missing here?
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

THERE NOT SELLING!!!
last year eveyone got a new fwy wood and it alot bought rbz - the green one. and right not now the rbz2 is not any better. doen a lot fo launch monitor testing with fwy's and the rbz and rbz2 are dead even. my view..
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

I agreee ^^^^
The standard stage 2 rocketballz is just some paint on the crown, they didnt change anything other than that.
the stage 2 tour version has an adjustable hosel, like last years r11s fw, but other than that nothing new. some will say the tour version with adjustable hosel and speed slot is better, but I just dont see it.

I have hit both and I am certain that it is not 10 yards longer than rocketballz for ME.

the stage 2 with its crown graphics is a tough sell, I will never play a stage 2 or r1. I have hit both and cant stand the graphics. I think taylormade really missed the mark this year and scarficed preformance for marketing.
Just my 2 cents.....

this is the first time I can say this but I'm very disappointed in taylormade this year. I might be swithching back to titleist...because I know they will never do that to the crown of a club.....
In the past it was all about preformance with taylormade clubs and marketing was second. it seems this year they got it backwards.....
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 04:39 PM

THERE NOT SELLING!!!
last year eveyone got a new fwy wood and it alot bought rbz - the green one. and right not now the rbz2 is not any better. doen a lot fo launch monitor testing with fwy's and the rbz and rbz2 are dead even. my view..


Last year's RBZ is a great fairway wood, but the Stage 2 definitely has some advantages for certain players for sure. I wouldn't say that it's better for everyone, but the face depth and overall design of Stage 2 makes it easier to hit off the deck and achieve improved launch and spin for specific swing types. Some players who had great success with last year's RBZ may not see a big difference, but the spin rates generated with the various lofts made it more difficult to optimize trajectory for many players from a fitting standpoint. With the correct setup, there is no question that some guys are going to see noticeable gains in the Stage 2. However, some certainly will not. That's just about true of any model from one year to the next though with any company.


I agreee ^^^^
The standard stage 2 rocketballz is just some paint on the crown, they didnt change anything other than that.
the stage 2 tour version has an adjustable hosel, like last years r11s fw, but other than that nothing new. some will say the tour version with adjustable hosel and speed slot is better, but I just dont see it.

I have hit both and I am certain that it is not 10 yards longer than rocketballz for ME.

the stage 2 with its crown graphics is a tough sell, I will never play a stage 2 or r1. I have hit both and cant stand the graphics. I think taylormade really missed the mark this year and scarficed preformance for marketing.
Just my 2 cents.....

this is the first time I can say this but I'm very disappointed in taylormade this year. I might be swithching back to titleist...because I know they will never do that to the crown of a club.....
In the past it was all about preformance with taylormade clubs and marketing was second. it seems this year they got it backwards.....
Mike


I'm a huge fan and supporter of TM clubs obviously, but I will admit that I was not a fan of the new graphics when I FIRST saw them. Having played and tested the clubs extensively at this point, I can say that for me the graphics have more than grown on me. In fact, I feel that if you are open minded about it somewhat you will see that the crown graphics actually have a very noticeable impact on your alignment and awareness of where the face is aimed. I have never cared for any graphics on the crown of a club before in the past and could tolerate them at best, but I can with 100% honesty say that I actually PREFER to have them on the R1 and Stage 2 heads for performance reason after having used them for some time now as I truly feel as though they have helped me particularly with the R1 driver.

Now from a total performance stand point, I have to completely disagree with you that they sacrificed it for marketing. The R1 is super low spin, feels great, is very accurate, and pretty darn forgiving. R1 is hands down without question the best adjustable driver that I have ever hit from TM. It's not even close. I have always felt as though the R series drivers with the excpetion of the SQ 282 gave up distance to the Burner or RBZ line over the past 5-6 years in exchange for adjustability or looks. This year I feel like the R1 leaves NOTHING on the table from what I am seeing. Not only for myself, but with all of the players who I have fit since the R1 became available I am seeing that the CG offers much better launch and spin conditions than anything in the past or this type of head.

I'll go on record right now as saying that performance wise the R1 is the best TM driver that I have ever hit. It's impossible to compare previous generations to newer models because of advancemens in technology. However, I always like to compare newer heads to the competition and what it's up against at the time. IMO, the r510 TP was the best driver that I ever played since it was just THE driver at that time much like the Titleist 975D back in the late '90's. That said, I would personally put the R1 in that category and feel like it's a pretty noticeable and even drastic improvement for some over R11S. The numbers and results on the course show it as well. I have fit numerous players including two PGA Tour players with the R1 and all have seem some gain in distance in addition to the improved feel and accuracy that most find with R1. Biased as I might be, it's an awesome driver and isn't leaving my bag until they make something better.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

my numbers are going to be better for an R1, aren't they... :censored2: :censored2: :censored2: :censored2: :censored2:
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