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@  TWshoot67 : (21 July 2014 - 09:29 PM) Funny two weeks ago Adam Scott was the next coming of Tiger, now it's Rory again. neither can sniff what TIGER has done!
@  TWshoot67 : (21 July 2014 - 09:28 PM) J13 glad you said something, I have to laugh every time I watch or read anything from GC.
@  MrParr1Noid : (21 July 2014 - 08:14 PM) HossOnMoss, thanks for the welcome .. And? J13, when will Tiger be back .. LMAO .. :9:
@  J13 : (21 July 2014 - 07:50 PM) So all within a matter of days Rory is unstoppable, Tiger is finished, Fowler is now a rival of Rory?
@  drumdog : (21 July 2014 - 04:13 PM) Glad I could finally get on here. Not sure what my problem was, but now I'm here!
@  HossOnMoss : (21 July 2014 - 12:41 PM) Welcome to BSG MrParr1Noid...glad to have you here!
@  Dscvrr_St Louis : (21 July 2014 - 10:57 AM) Kudos to Fowler and Garcia for making a push and forcing Rory to play well to maintain his lead!!
@  ROBOPTI : (21 July 2014 - 10:25 AM) WHAT UP CREW ... BIG Congrats to Rory !!! Wouldn't you love to see him & Adam Scott show up at the same place with the MacDaddy A game going ... WOW
@  TWshoot67 : (20 July 2014 - 11:32 AM) Congrats to Rory on the win, also congrats to my man RF with a great showing in another major, should have one soon! Great playing boys!
@  MrParr1Noid : (19 July 2014 - 08:37 PM) Cool look'n site set up you all have here. Gracias for approving my new account @ BSG.. :thanks:

I look forward to contributing here @ BSG.. :thumbsup:
@  SirSaint77 : (18 July 2014 - 07:43 PM) Man Rory is ripping that driver with no fear. :yes:
@  TWshoot67 : (18 July 2014 - 02:47 PM) maybe the real bad weather will show up tomorrow... Tiger and phil will need some real bad weather and their A games to have any chance!
@  TWshoot67 : (17 July 2014 - 11:42 PM) Round 2 underway and sounds like Rain just started as first player tees off... Could be an interesting day :golf2: :badday:
@  TWshoot67 : (17 July 2014 - 03:47 AM) Watching some early morning OPEN Golf and pulling for TW and RF... :coffee: :golf: :golf:
@  TWshoot67 : (17 July 2014 - 01:19 AM) How many US East coast golf fans are waking up for THE OPEN 4:00am live coverage ESPN & ESPN3 for just Tiger! :yahoo: :yahoo: :golf:
@  J13 : (16 July 2014 - 05:39 AM) The Open is upon us !!
@  TWshoot67 : (14 July 2014 - 09:26 PM) Oh well I caved in, hard to resist especially when they are some one of a kind prizes.
@  TWshoot67 : (14 July 2014 - 07:04 PM) I'd enter this one 25 years ago when I had the swing speed to get one of those heads airborne for more then 50 yards.... :lol2: :lol3: :4:
@  TWshoot67 : (14 July 2014 - 07:03 PM) Nice Giveaway for the BIGHITTERS, Thanks Callaway & BSG! :golf: :golf: :golf:
@  ROBOPTI : (14 July 2014 - 06:07 PM) 2 CALLAWAY KINGS OF DISTANCE HEADS UP FOR GRABS - SEE DETAILS BELOW
@  petter7 : (14 July 2014 - 01:14 PM) I believe Mizuno measurements are without the grip on the club vs. Titleist with the grip installed.
@  HossOnMoss : (14 July 2014 - 10:42 AM) Correct. They measure differently and are actually the same length.
@  TJR : (14 July 2014 - 05:45 AM) Melonhead - 38" (Titleist) 37.75" (Mizuno) - difference is probably the way the clubs are measured.
@  MN NICE : (14 July 2014 - 05:27 AM) MONDAYS ARE FOR SUCKERS!
@  melonhead : (13 July 2014 - 09:56 PM) What is standard length for a 5 iron guys?
@  yardsonthetable : (12 July 2014 - 06:21 PM) Thanks!
@  J13 : (12 July 2014 - 10:43 AM) bttw you have to put the cursor over Box with the arrow to get the dash to come up.
@  J13 : (12 July 2014 - 04:18 AM) yardsonthetable- at the top right hand of the shoutbox there is a small oval with a dash in it (-) just click that to minimize the shoutbox
@  yardsonthetable : (11 July 2014 - 09:33 PM) It's why I thought the site was dead. Shoutbox occupies the top of every page on my laptop.
@  yardsonthetable : (11 July 2014 - 09:31 PM) Why is shoutbox at the top of every page? It's quite annoying.
@  Callaway_Anthony : (11 July 2014 - 11:32 AM) Bombs Away!!!
@  FRAKETRAIN448 : (11 July 2014 - 11:22 AM) Heading to Kansas for LDA Region 5 Championships - It's X2HOT Bomb time.
@  TWshoot67 : (11 July 2014 - 11:18 AM) excellent, everybody loves giveaways... :thumbsup: :banana1: :banana1: :banana1:
@  ROBOPTI : (11 July 2014 - 10:48 AM) What a week !!! .. Couple really cool give aways coming ;)
@  ROBOPTI : (11 July 2014 - 10:48 AM) TGIF !!! .. WOW
@  TWshoot67 : (10 July 2014 - 02:30 PM)
@  TWshoot67 : (10 July 2014 - 02:28 PM) Here's something for the insane golfers
@  J13 : (09 July 2014 - 07:21 PM) you guys are insane :) Lets all chat more and start threads. It takes everyone to keep the place interesting!
@  TWshoot67 : (09 July 2014 - 07:13 PM) but I'm afraid to start a thread, people may make fun of me... :9: :crazy: :comp03:
@  Knudson81 : (09 July 2014 - 02:53 PM) I did my part today! Tomorrow I am thinking about starting one "Things smaller than ROBO's hands"!
@  J13 : (09 July 2014 - 02:36 PM) More people need to start threads. Simple.
@  ROBOPTI : (08 July 2014 - 10:56 PM) Nope .. LOTS of viewers & repliers .. but it seems NO starters ... strange - like people are apprehensive to start threads .. server traffic is high actually
@  yardsonthetable : (08 July 2014 - 07:23 PM) Is this site dead now?
@  SOU812 : (08 July 2014 - 05:38 PM) My bad!! :spank: I know I read somewhere that she liked girls. But then again, EVERTHING on the internet is true!! :thumbsup: :lol3:
@  TWshoot67 : (07 July 2014 - 11:29 AM) I'd say she likes men!
@  TWshoot67 : (07 July 2014 - 11:28 AM) Ronda talks about sex on a few shows but here's a link from Conan
@  ROBOPTI : (06 July 2014 - 02:46 PM) You do realize her boyriend is her ring manager ... she shoots straight as an arrow
@  youngwaldo : (06 July 2014 - 02:05 PM) @Sou812 - Really?!? I didnt know that.
@  SOU812 : (06 July 2014 - 12:01 PM) @ROBOPTI - the only problem with that photo is that she like girls as much as you do!!
@  TWshoot67 : (05 July 2014 - 10:42 PM) So much for owning WEIDMAN 4 rounds to 1 on my scorecard! How about Ronda Rousey,,,DAMN!!!
@  ROBOPTI : (05 July 2014 - 05:09 PM) UFC175 - LYOTO MACHIDA is going to own Weidman ,,, and Rousey - What's not to love about this Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
@  HossOnMoss : (05 July 2014 - 02:01 PM) @Houstonhacker, the LH items are listed in with all of the other item listings. If there is anything in particular that you want, just shoot me a PM or email and I can help you out.
@  Houstonhacker : (05 July 2014 - 09:54 AM) In the past didn't the BSG for-sale forum have a left-hand section? Am I overlooking it?
@  BingHogan : (04 July 2014 - 09:41 PM) Garsen Grip - 24 putts yesterday, not bad... I'm going to sell theses things!
@  youngwaldo : (04 July 2014 - 10:03 AM) I want to see the TM UDI come to retail soon. Anyone know?
@  TJR : (02 July 2014 - 07:30 PM) Haven't seen anything yet. Not sure how Mizuno will improve on the MP-64 or MP-4? I'll have a set of MP-4s someday...
@  BingHogan : (02 July 2014 - 06:03 PM) Should be seeing new MP irons soon! Anyone know of anything yet?
@  TWshoot67 : (02 July 2014 - 01:16 PM) heck that Canadian youngster Raonic had like 37/38 aces in quarters I believe, WOW!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (02 July 2014 - 01:12 PM) I'm pulling for Fed, although these young guns are looking good... and I mean guns 135mph serves with ease! The future looks bright for Tennis!
@  ROBOPTI : (02 July 2014 - 08:28 AM) To you tennis fans ... IF you are watching right bow .. How good is this Dimitrov. He has a hammer serve/forehand - and is dropping dimes on Murray Posted Image
@  ROBOPTI : (02 July 2014 - 08:25 AM) weaves .. HOSS is gonna PM ya ;)
@  weaves25 : (02 July 2014 - 07:55 AM) ROBO...HOSS...Can you confirm the paypal email address for purchases...Thanks!
@  ROBOPTI : (02 July 2014 - 07:41 AM) Can't wait to hear what you guys think about em ,,, They look amazing !!!
@  HossOnMoss : (01 July 2014 - 07:33 PM) Congrats to Bigskydog and SOU812 on winning the Diamana Plus+ shaft giveaway!!!
@  Armyguy13 : (01 July 2014 - 06:17 PM) Any news on who won the giveaway?
@  ROBOPTI : (30 June 2014 - 10:07 AM) Oh great ... Aaron & Trent on board ... half my age - and twice as deep with driver ... F**** YOU both ... HUGS !!!!
@  BobLobLaw : (30 June 2014 - 08:24 AM) Thought you wanted a new nickname maneater? lol
@  CallawayAaron : (29 June 2014 - 08:49 PM) Just Joined the Forum, whats good? - Maneater
@  Bigskydog : (29 June 2014 - 06:20 PM) Forget I said anything. Raining
@  slick : (29 June 2014 - 05:30 PM) Will it ever stop raining??? Course needs jon boats not golf carts....
@  Bigskydog : (29 June 2014 - 12:46 PM) Not raining in here!!!! Can't go out anyway ;-( :violin:
@  BingHogan : (28 June 2014 - 08:49 AM) Garsen Grip on my BB37 - drilling em!
@  J13 : (25 June 2014 - 05:59 PM) HIGH SPEED VIDEO ADDED to the Tiger Woods Quicken Loans National thread !!!!
@  J13 : (25 June 2014 - 05:33 PM) Taylormade Lethal Practice balls on Woot for $9.99 / dozen !!!!!!
@  J13 : (24 June 2014 - 07:55 PM) PICS are up from my day out at the Quicken Loans National.
@  HossOnMoss : (24 June 2014 - 02:52 PM) Giveaway posted in the Tour Forum to win a Mitsubishi 2nd Generation Diamana Plus+ Tour IP edition shaft!!!
@  FRAKETRAIN448 : (24 June 2014 - 02:10 PM) My ForeSight GC2 arrived today - I AM JACKED...
@  rfdegen : (24 June 2014 - 10:12 AM) Am loving the new Ping Ketsch putter!
@  HossOnMoss : (24 June 2014 - 10:08 AM) Check out the TOUR Forum for details on Mitsubishi's new Diamana Plus+ line debuting this week on tour. Giveway coming shortly!!!
@  HossOnMoss : (23 June 2014 - 05:51 PM) Got in an early shipment of Cally MD 2 Tour Grind wedges in along with BB Pro fwys....SWEET heads!!!!
@  J13 : (22 June 2014 - 07:40 PM) In God WIE trust!!! She is getting hotter by the second.
@  TWshoot67 : (22 June 2014 - 03:57 PM) The weight has been lifted Michelle is a U.S. Open winner! Congratulations, well deserved :4: :banana1: :smilie_nike: :kev:
@  TWshoot67 : (22 June 2014 - 03:47 PM) This is a new Michelle Wie, she has really stepped up after that double! Great job Michelle!
@  TWshoot67 : (22 June 2014 - 03:45 PM) Well MW just made it a lot easier w/ birdie on 17 and nice drive on 18
@  J13 : (22 June 2014 - 03:34 PM) Michelle Wie is really making this hard on herself. WOW HORRIBLE decision to hit hybrid out of a bunker
@  J13 : (20 June 2014 - 06:13 PM) Tiger is back and BSG is going to be there. Check my thread out in the PGA Tour section.
@  TWshoot67 : (20 June 2014 - 01:50 PM) I just went to Tiger's FB page.... I'm not crazy, TW is back next week!!! :banana1: :banana1: :banana1: :golf:
@  TWshoot67 : (20 June 2014 - 01:35 PM) Did I just hear this correctly? Tiger Woods back next week? Are you serious or did I miss something?
@  ROBOPTI : (18 June 2014 - 08:25 AM) LONGDRIVERS !!!! .... Help me spread the word that the photoshoot is online & growing !!
@  ROBOPTI : (17 June 2014 - 10:25 PM) BLUFF CITY SHOOTOUT SECTION IS NOW LIVE .. AND WILL GROW DAILY
@  J13 : (17 June 2014 - 07:10 PM) So i hear Tiger is hitting full shots through the whole bag
@  Knudson81 : (17 June 2014 - 07:45 AM) You slacking ROBO? ONLY 6321 pics and 43.27GB of video? Must be amateur hour!
@  ROBOPTI : (16 June 2014 - 11:00 AM) Final Tally ... 6321 pics ... 43.27 gig of video ... I will start posting tonight ... converting video etc for Youtube ... I got so many good shots its rediculous !!!
@  barnesatc : (16 June 2014 - 09:08 AM) irons
@  BingHogan : (13 June 2014 - 09:43 AM) Amen to that J!!! They now have medication for this...
@  J13 : (13 June 2014 - 07:27 AM) Keegan Bradley is nauseating to watch. HIT THE BALL ALREADY!!!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (12 June 2014 - 07:07 PM) Would love to see Jordan Speith get his 1st major, if not I'd love to see Phil pull a rabbit out of the hat!
@  ROBOPTI : (12 June 2014 - 12:25 PM) *** I WILL BE AT THE BLUFFCITY LD SHOOTOUT THIS WEEKEND - MASSIVE !!! FIELD ***
@  ROBOPTI : (12 June 2014 - 12:24 PM) 32 MAJOR BOMBERS IN THE FIELD
@  ROBOPTI : (12 June 2014 - 12:01 PM) A bomber is gonna win this ... Phil / DJ/ Bubba ... They can mash it down range and still kinda get away with it .. Love to see Woodland get hot

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BSG PLAYER SHAFT TESTING.....Launch Angle + Spin Rate


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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:47 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

How about the new Miyazaki shafts? The blacks are supposed to be among the lowest spinning shafts ever. Already have wins on tour too. Go for an arm and a leg on the bay...
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:28 AM

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.


did that two years ago worked out great. Just wondering if anybody new if I can reuse this shaft with a 8.5 head?
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:02 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.



You might want to check out that head and make sure that it isn't caved or something because there is no way that the 909 is going to spin 1,400 rpm less and have 7 mph more ball speed. There is something wrong there with the club or the guy doing the fitting screwed up the numbers somehow. The shaft should definitely be reusable, but I would recommend at least getting a second set of launch data with the 4250 and having us take a look at the numbers because that doesn't add up in the least bit.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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Edited by Texsport, 21 March 2010 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

where would the whiteboard 7o gram x flex fall in this lineup? I am familiar with that shaft, but not too many others on here. Thank you
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:30 AM

Very interesting that the shaqx is up there too... I think the (mis)conception is that it's a low launch shaft. I also thought the kai'li was going to be higher launch than most and it seems middle to lower in the pack - and I was really hoping to give that one a go... looks like I'll stay with my tusty Altus or Altus LT driver shafts.

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:00 PM

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?



Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.



Testing is very costly and time consuming to conduct. So, it would not make any sense to spend our resources testing product that does not apply to our customer base and membership as a whole. Those heads are made specifically for the purpose of long drive competition and doesn't fit into what BSG offers or what it's members in general are looking for. I would imagine that there is a long drive forum out there somewhere who would be more apt to have such information.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:58 AM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:08 PM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???



TP6HD is slightly different from TP7HD, but nothing drastic. We simply were not able to test every shaft in every flex due to cost and time constraints.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:33 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:49 PM

We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.



Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

Well put and understood, Im glad you guys do this and share with us thats why were all here. tks
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:29 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:33 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!



The CN7 VooDoo is a pretty special shaft in the way that it launches the ball high with such little spin. No other shaft out there really combines those launch aspects the way that the Cinnamon does. I am sure that it just hits flat bombs in a head like your FT Tour. Posted Image

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:23 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.



You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:29 AM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?



We have tested TP6HD, but it was not included in this particular round of testing which is why you do not see it listed in this compilation.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:40 PM

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.



I would say that it is an angle that as a fitter you MUST approach from.....otherwise you are costing your customers performance. There are so many shaft options these days and trying to compare the offerings from one company to another is nearly impossible if you just look at the spec sheets and take them at face value. Not to mention, you have to keep in mind how different swings will react differently to each shaft.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:46 PM

That makes perfect sense cause everyone raves about the voodoo shafts but in my swing those shafts have the largest shot dispursment of any shaft i have ever swung.
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