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@  melonhead : (02 September 2014 - 12:10 PM) Tour proto jetspeed
@  HossOnMoss : (01 September 2014 - 09:33 PM) Std Jetspeed tour 3 wood or the proto head?
@  melonhead : (01 September 2014 - 07:15 PM) How long would a tour issue jetspeed 3 wood play with a 42 1/2 inch shaft?
@  ROBOPTI : (31 August 2014 - 01:42 PM) 0xh
@  ROBOPTI : (31 August 2014 - 01:31 PM) Posted Image
@  J13 : (31 August 2014 - 06:34 AM) Hope everyone is having a perrrrrrrrfect holiday weekend Posted Image
@  J13 : (31 August 2014 - 06:22 AM) Site looks great Robo keep up the good work brotha!!! Love the GREENIES
@  TWshoot67 : (30 August 2014 - 09:27 PM) Congrats Robo on the site and the shafts. Are you having Veylix design for your shaft co.?
@  ROBOPTI : (30 August 2014 - 10:36 AM) XPHLEXXX.COM IS LIVE !!! ... BSG HYPERLINKS ON PAGE :)
@  BingHogan : (28 August 2014 - 10:20 PM) A zinger is probably right. He's the only one on the GC that knows what he's talking about.
@  TJR : (28 August 2014 - 04:14 PM) Azinger said he could fix Tiger in 10 minutes...
@  youngwaldo : (28 August 2014 - 09:40 AM) Butch is slowing down so taking Tiger will not happen.
@  HossOnMoss : (28 August 2014 - 09:16 AM) I've heard the Grant Waite rumors as well, but that would be so similar to how Foley teaches. That's not to say that Grant couldn't teach him better even with a similar model or style.
@  HossOnMoss : (28 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) Butch already said no and Tiger isn't going to take the left overs. I could see Claude III as an outside possibility otherwise, but I doubt it because of that.
@  BingHogan : (28 August 2014 - 08:57 AM) Gotta be one of the Harmon's. Or all of them. It's not the coach...
@  J13 : (28 August 2014 - 06:04 AM) I'm taking myself out of consideration to be tigers next coach lol
@  ballen : (28 August 2014 - 04:56 AM) I hear Grant Waite will be Tigers next.......
@  BingHogan : (27 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) RIP Tours - unbelievably good!
@  BingHogan : (27 August 2014 - 09:37 PM) Tiger maybe running out of options. Maybe Leadbetter :rolleyes:
@  HossOnMoss : (27 August 2014 - 09:28 AM) Tiger holds interviews for the position. Breed walks up and says, "Come on, Tiger! LET'S DO THIS!!!!" Tiger and I are thinking the same thing....BRUTAL. Haha
@  TWshoot67 : (26 August 2014 - 07:54 PM) Heck Tiger doesn't need to be with Michael Breed he's already a weekly discussion about the golf swing even when he's not playing on the Golf Channel....
@  Golferrob22 : (26 August 2014 - 06:36 PM) I'd put some money on Bob May! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@  TJR : (26 August 2014 - 06:26 PM) How about Michael Breed? Tiger could be featured on a weekly segment of "The Golf Fix"
@  HossOnMoss : (26 August 2014 - 12:04 PM) I figured it was coming. Who's up next for the position? My money is on Chuck Cook.
@  BingHogan : (25 August 2014 - 02:21 PM) Still would like Tiger to get to at LEAST 18 Majors! That will tick off Chamblee.
@  TWshoot67 : (25 August 2014 - 01:55 PM) Tiger and Foley are done. The split has been announced by both sides1
@  lamont6266 : (23 August 2014 - 07:33 PM) Loved the pix and links to the new Bridgestone J15 line up that were posted!
@  dlab123 : (23 August 2014 - 03:48 AM) Aldila rogue
@  J13 : (22 August 2014 - 08:21 PM) Hoss that sounds like a winner wow. MPete welcome aboard!
@  HossOnMoss : (22 August 2014 - 09:57 AM) Welcome to BSG mpete!!!
@  mpete : (22 August 2014 - 07:10 AM) I just found the site really cool place !! just joined up yesterday,
@  HossOnMoss : (21 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) As good a combination of smoothness and stability that I have ever felt. Disperion is just crazy good.
@  J13 : (21 August 2014 - 06:54 PM) Aldila Rogue that good??
@  690MBCOMMANDO : (21 August 2014 - 04:20 PM) Saw the GOAT (Jerry Rice) out on the course yesterday. Plunkett a few ago for those Raiders fans
@  HossOnMoss : (21 August 2014 - 03:23 PM) Raise your hand if you've hit the Aldila Rogue and LOVE it!!! :wave:
@  ROBOPTI : (21 August 2014 - 09:55 AM) JACK IS BACK .... WHAT UP BRO !!!!
@  Jack : (21 August 2014 - 09:12 AM) Right, time to get back posting and get this place BUZZING! What's new everybody?
@  BingHogan : (19 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) MP 68's with RIP Tours tomorrow FedEx! Thanks Hoss!!!
@  rfdegen : (15 August 2014 - 12:10 PM) TGIF! Robo! Club Championship tomorrow.
@  ROBOPTI : (14 August 2014 - 08:30 AM) HAPPY THURSDAY GANG !!! Posted Image
@  rfdegen : (13 August 2014 - 08:05 AM) Divorce sucks. It damages people. So sad that someone feels they have no options and takes their own life.
@  BingHogan : (12 August 2014 - 09:35 PM) Very sad. Said the 2EX's were owed 30Mil...
@  J13 : (11 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) RIP Robin Williams, wow crazy news.
@  Fev55 : (11 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) miura pp9003
@  Qwagmire : (10 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) Congrats to Rory, Rickie is this close, but I think Tiger would have shit razor blades if Phil won
@  TWshoot67 : (10 August 2014 - 03:23 PM) to = two
@  TWshoot67 : (10 August 2014 - 03:23 PM) J - like both of your last to SHOUTS, I say Let's Go Rickie!
@  J13 : (10 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) If I see the Rory and Omega watch commercial again i'm going to kick in the tv screen
@  J13 : (10 August 2014 - 02:52 PM) Oh this is shaping up to be an EPIC sunday at the PGA Champ. !!!!!
@  MWP : (08 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) @TW Since Fowler put work into his swing with Butch and cut his hair my opinion on him has completely changed, I'd like to see him squeak this one out.
@  TWshoot67 : (08 August 2014 - 08:08 PM) Although Steve Striker winning would be pretty cool too...
@  TWshoot67 : (08 August 2014 - 08:07 PM) Is anyone else pulling for Rickie Fowler this weekend?
@  KyCutter : (08 August 2014 - 05:13 PM) He should be smarter than that TW. That's my point. If he's hurt. Quit
@  TWshoot67 : (08 August 2014 - 04:11 PM) he's probably going to gut it out hurt himself some more just so he don't have to listen to media and naysayers who say he's faking his injuries
@  TWshoot67 : (08 August 2014 - 04:10 PM) he's already posted an 81 @ The Open few years back.
@  KyCutter : (08 August 2014 - 02:38 PM) Pushed putt. Pulled back. Time to WD. No way will he post 80
@  rfdegen : (08 August 2014 - 10:17 AM) Not contrary, from someone with a bad back, just amazed he's playing this week. Un-freakin-believable.
@  TWshoot67 : (07 August 2014 - 01:08 PM) It's all what have you done lately in todays world. Sorry I just don't give up on Tiger so easy. I'm a fanboy! lol
@  TWshoot67 : (07 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I love how people are so contrary, less then 10 months ago Tiger had 5 wins and was #1 WGR. Now it's like he should just toss it in an quit his career is over, LOL
@  Qwagmire : (07 August 2014 - 10:47 AM) any guesses when the spasms happen? I got front nine Friday
@  KyCutter : (07 August 2014 - 08:27 AM) I suspect the "spasms" are creeping back into the picture.
@  HossOnMoss : (06 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) He did say it was spasms...real or not. Anyone that didn't think he would tee it up this week is nuts. There's no way he was missing the PGA once he made his statement sunday.
@  KyCutter : (06 August 2014 - 04:06 PM) Tired indeed ROBO…miraculous recovery tho'
@  ROBOPTI : (06 August 2014 - 02:43 PM) Really ??? ... Just a tired show
@  rfdegen : (06 August 2014 - 11:50 AM) Tiger on the range at Valhalla! Unbelievable!
@  HossOnMoss : (05 August 2014 - 09:31 PM) Bing, got tied up all day but I'll catch up with you tomorrow!
@  BingHogan : (05 August 2014 - 08:46 PM) Hoss did,you forget something? Ha ha !
@  HossOnMoss : (05 August 2014 - 04:23 PM) That sounds like an awesome time KYCutter! Have fun!!!
@  KyCutter : (05 August 2014 - 01:44 PM) Pumped to go watch my friend JB Thursday!!
@  BingHogan : (04 August 2014 - 09:45 PM) SOFTLIGHT!, sound like THE perfect shaft for the Alpina guys who want a bit less spin.
@  ROBOPTI : (04 August 2014 - 10:05 AM) VEYLIX SOFTLIGHT now available here at BSG !!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (03 August 2014 - 11:40 AM) Well no one has to worry about Ryder Cup, Tiger re-injured his back anf just WD
@  ROBOPTI : (02 August 2014 - 02:30 PM) Remember the name ...
@  ROBOPTI : (02 August 2014 - 02:29 PM) Posted Image
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:37 PM) YW
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:37 PM) @andy1818 if you copy and paste just from,,, http to / you'll get to proper area For Sale/Trade. The other link gets you to BSG merchandise, just I had no space between section and http in 1st post, trying to help
@  andy1818 : (01 August 2014 - 12:36 PM) Thanks
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:33 PM) no mistakes??
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:33 PM) Is it one and done?
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:32 PM) how come I can't find where you edit SHOUT BOX posts?
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:31 PM) In the for sale sectionhttp://bombsquadgolf.com/Invision/index.php?/forum/13-for-sale-or-trade/ ; or if your trying to buy from BSG: http://bombsquadgolf...ve-merchandise/
@  andy1818 : (01 August 2014 - 12:27 PM) Clubs used to be for sale on here. Where is that at?
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 12:27 PM) Well don't know about Hummingbirds speaking English, but all I was trying to infer was that everytime the media and others toss Tiger aside he does something no one else does in golf. It's amazing how everyone already forgot the guy won 5 times last year. He's been injured all year. I could care less if he plays the Ryder Cup
@  BingHogan : (01 August 2014 - 12:05 PM) Read where some MIT grad had the idea of a 3ft cup. Yeah, that should really work. :lol2:
@  BingHogan : (01 August 2014 - 12:01 PM) So, when Tiger wins the 15th, that should bring golf back from the doldrums!
@  ROBOPTI : (01 August 2014 - 10:05 AM) ... and if humingbirds start speaking English .... yada yada yada ... That is EXACTLY what I saying. It's time to treat Tiger like everyone else .. He has earned that. That "aura" .. that "mystique" INSIDE the ropes - not outside - IS OVER. I think that's why this topic gets so heated. WE - the peeps are still drinking the Koolaide - and that's cool ... TRUST ME!!!! .. Inside the ropes ... They quit drinking that a longtime ago. Do we want to win - or have another episode of "X Factor" - cuz he doesn't concern Europe - AT ALL
@  TWshoot67 : (01 August 2014 - 09:44 AM) So for arguements sake Tiger finds his game wins 2 of last 3 events you still say he don't deserve to play on RC, don't count Tiger out yet!
@  ROBOPTI : (01 August 2014 - 07:43 AM) Too bad he probably will ... even though he doesn't deserve it ... glass half full though - be fun to watch
@  BingHogan : (31 July 2014 - 11:36 PM) T. Watson, best be pickin Tiger for the Ryder or nobody's watching...
@  BingHogan : (31 July 2014 - 11:34 PM) Bettinardi Wedges!? What's next, Bettinardi irons!? Let's hope so!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (31 July 2014 - 05:46 PM) ROBO I like this idea below, only problem for ho's is they will use them all...lol
@  ROBOPTI : (31 July 2014 - 10:44 AM) I am also going to talk to our web-guru to get icons made for all other OEM so every member can display their favorite brand ;)
@  ROBOPTI : (31 July 2014 - 10:43 AM) CALLY & KRANK crew ... If you sign up and are hitting either in LD competition ... Let me know and I will give you some cool insignias on your profile
@  ROBOPTI : (31 July 2014 - 10:28 AM) BIG JOE MILLER WITB - CLASSIC Posted Image Posted Image
@  ROBOPTI : (30 July 2014 - 12:53 PM) NOONE in Jacksonville / Amelia Island area ?? - HELP !!!! Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image
@  ROBOPTI : (30 July 2014 - 09:04 AM) RUH ROH !!!! ... Kings of Distance heads are OUTTA HERE !!!!!!! Posted Image
@  youngwaldo : (29 July 2014 - 02:28 PM) Good luck with LD low really low lofted heads.
@  ROBOPTI : (28 July 2014 - 10:27 AM) BIG THANK YOU to Callaway Golf for the LDA/KOD head giveaway ... Cuz everyone needs a 6* driver :lol:
@  rfdegen : (28 July 2014 - 09:48 AM) At 55, starting to figure out why PGA Seniors only play 3 days! After two weeks with a lot of golf, my aching body is tired!
@  Callaway_Anthony : (28 July 2014 - 08:50 AM) Congrats Slick and MWP on winning the X2 Hot Pro LD heads. Enjoy!

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:47 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

How about the new Miyazaki shafts? The blacks are supposed to be among the lowest spinning shafts ever. Already have wins on tour too. Go for an arm and a leg on the bay...
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:28 AM

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.


did that two years ago worked out great. Just wondering if anybody new if I can reuse this shaft with a 8.5 head?
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:02 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.



You might want to check out that head and make sure that it isn't caved or something because there is no way that the 909 is going to spin 1,400 rpm less and have 7 mph more ball speed. There is something wrong there with the club or the guy doing the fitting screwed up the numbers somehow. The shaft should definitely be reusable, but I would recommend at least getting a second set of launch data with the 4250 and having us take a look at the numbers because that doesn't add up in the least bit.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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Edited by Texsport, 21 March 2010 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

where would the whiteboard 7o gram x flex fall in this lineup? I am familiar with that shaft, but not too many others on here. Thank you
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:30 AM

Very interesting that the shaqx is up there too... I think the (mis)conception is that it's a low launch shaft. I also thought the kai'li was going to be higher launch than most and it seems middle to lower in the pack - and I was really hoping to give that one a go... looks like I'll stay with my tusty Altus or Altus LT driver shafts.

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?
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TITLEIST SC Laguna 2 Heavy

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:00 PM

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?



Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.



Testing is very costly and time consuming to conduct. So, it would not make any sense to spend our resources testing product that does not apply to our customer base and membership as a whole. Those heads are made specifically for the purpose of long drive competition and doesn't fit into what BSG offers or what it's members in general are looking for. I would imagine that there is a long drive forum out there somewhere who would be more apt to have such information.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:58 AM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:08 PM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???



TP6HD is slightly different from TP7HD, but nothing drastic. We simply were not able to test every shaft in every flex due to cost and time constraints.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:33 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:49 PM

We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.



Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

Well put and understood, Im glad you guys do this and share with us thats why were all here. tks
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:29 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:33 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!



The CN7 VooDoo is a pretty special shaft in the way that it launches the ball high with such little spin. No other shaft out there really combines those launch aspects the way that the Cinnamon does. I am sure that it just hits flat bombs in a head like your FT Tour. Posted Image

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:23 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.



You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:29 AM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?



We have tested TP6HD, but it was not included in this particular round of testing which is why you do not see it listed in this compilation.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:40 PM

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.



I would say that it is an angle that as a fitter you MUST approach from.....otherwise you are costing your customers performance. There are so many shaft options these days and trying to compare the offerings from one company to another is nearly impossible if you just look at the spec sheets and take them at face value. Not to mention, you have to keep in mind how different swings will react differently to each shaft.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:46 PM

That makes perfect sense cause everyone raves about the voodoo shafts but in my swing those shafts have the largest shot dispursment of any shaft i have ever swung.
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