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@  BingHogan : (21 November 2014 - 01:47 PM) Hey Hoss, any thoughts on doing a comparison of the Nippon 120's vs the KBS Tour V Tour?
@  HossOnMoss : (20 November 2014 - 10:48 AM) What do you guys think about Golf Digest's / Dan Jenkins' recent "interview" with Tiger? http://bombsquadgolf...iew-with-tiger/
@  ROBOPTI : (14 November 2014 - 10:14 AM) Bing - Birds of a feather - Those are the same 2 I am beating on lately (BC+ / 30)
@  ROBOPTI : (14 November 2014 - 09:02 AM) Posted Image
@  HossOnMoss : (12 November 2014 - 08:47 PM) Check out these Taylormade tour issue TP wedges and UDI's including the rare 47° PW and 23° #4 UDI. http://bombsquadgolf...-utility-irons/
@  HossOnMoss : (11 November 2014 - 07:43 PM) And by the way guys, the new Big Bertha Alpha 815 and DBD heads exceeded my expectations today in my initial testing. Really good stuff from Rutherford Road in these new heads! :smilie_cally:
@  HossOnMoss : (11 November 2014 - 07:39 PM) @rfdegen: If it makes you feel any better, I don't take it for granted. :D
@  rfdegen : (11 November 2014 - 03:08 PM) While Hoss is checking out the Game Golf and checking in new releases, we're shoveling snow.
@  HossOnMoss : (10 November 2014 - 10:11 PM) The new Big Bertha 815 heads look killer! New Titleist 915 drivers are on the way as well. I foresee a shootout on Trackman in the few days!!!
@  J13 : (10 November 2014 - 06:30 PM) Very Very nice !!!! Heard the DBD is NASTY!
@  HossOnMoss : (10 November 2014 - 05:45 PM) New Big Bertha 815 Alpha and Double Black Diamond driver heads are in and they look AWESOME!!!
@  Sherri : (06 November 2014 - 06:35 PM) New logo now in place. Hard refresh to see it! :) (ctrl + F5)
@  ROBOPTI : (06 November 2014 - 12:24 PM) THANKS GANG gang - And YES Sir Miller was using the XPHLEXXX ;) ... I feel aweful for him. He really wanted it. I am back in town - Got a bunch of pics - I'll be back soon
@  Qwagmire : (05 November 2014 - 10:37 AM) they gave Joe and XPHLEXXX a shout out, great job ROBO. Free Samples? :4:
@  J13 : (05 November 2014 - 06:54 AM) Correct me if i'm wrong but watching tv, Joe Miller was using an XPHLEXXX. Robo great work getting your shaft in the top 8 you have a lot to be proud of brother!!!!
@  slick : (04 November 2014 - 01:56 PM) Red Stripe...Check! Chips & Salsa....Check! Watching the Remax WLDC Tonight...CHECK!
@  Callaway_Anthony : (02 November 2014 - 05:58 PM) Golf Channel 11/4 10pm EST
@  Callaway_Anthony : (02 November 2014 - 05:58 PM) Everyone be sure to watch the longest hitters in the world compete for $250k!
@  J13 : (30 October 2014 - 04:13 PM) Thanks my man can't recommend your builds enough :6:
@  HossOnMoss : (30 October 2014 - 01:05 PM) That's awesome, J!!! I appreciate the kind feedback. Congrats! :thumbsup:
@  J13 : (29 October 2014 - 05:52 PM) Hellooooooo out there. My Hoss built irons recently helped me shoot an all time low of 67 from the tips. Marcus your work is second to none my friend.
@  rfdegen : (27 October 2014 - 12:48 PM) Played my last 18 of the season on Friday. Course closes this weekend, but I'll be in Iowa pheasant hunting.
@  Armyguy13 : (20 October 2014 - 08:14 PM) Voted for Andrew --- he's currently in the lead with 65.5% to 26.5% being the next place vote getter
@  TWshoot67 : (20 October 2014 - 04:54 PM) Andrew great job and I hope you make the Guinness book of world records. You got my vote! shared and tweeted.
@  HossOnMoss : (20 October 2014 - 01:46 PM) @Quantum: Rome 988 is actually a little smoother feeling and higher launch than DI-95 hybrid without feeling "loose" or being spinny. Rome 888 is going to launch lower and spin less than Speeder 757.
@  ROBOPTI : (17 October 2014 - 03:05 PM) BSGers - Fellow member & Cally Kings of Distance member Fraketrain needs our help !!! - For a spot in the Guiness Book of World Records http://www.guinnessw...ote-now!-61189/
@  Quantum : (17 October 2014 - 05:56 AM) Can you compare veylix 988 to GD DI 95 hybrid? Also veylix 888 to Fuji speeder 757?
@  J13 : (15 October 2014 - 06:11 AM) Congrats Robo I have it DVR'ed to watch can't wait. Well DONE !!!!!
@  ROBOPTI : (14 October 2014 - 11:14 AM) 1st episode of the REMAX WLDC is TONIGHT at 9PM CST ... Tune in and look for XPHLEXXX !!! ... Our Team had a GREAT showing !!!!
@  ROBOPTI : (14 October 2014 - 11:13 AM) 2014 REMAX WORLD LONG DRIVER CHAMIONSHIP pics going up longdrive section - and I have a TON !!!!!!!!!!!! more
@  ROBOPTI : (10 October 2014 - 07:45 AM) Posted Image ... WHAT IS UP !!! .. Gang - Been away for a while ... But - I AM BACK !!!! .. And I Have an insane amount of photos & info to share. Here we go !!!
@  BingHogan : (08 October 2014 - 10:29 AM) They still have a few I 20's on the shelf. Just need somethin' until all the new drivers come out next spring.
@  J13 : (07 October 2014 - 07:50 AM) I"m using an I25 now love it but the G30 LST is coming around January
@  BingHogan : (07 October 2014 - 12:08 AM) So, is the Ping I 25 dead!? Loved the I 20 with the K.
@  BingHogan : (05 October 2014 - 09:27 PM) Saw him hit a putter 280! Then saw him play and putted -- 280... :rolleyes:
@  youngwaldo : (05 October 2014 - 11:12 AM) Yes it is, but we can give him a break because its just for show.
@  Shambles : (05 October 2014 - 03:11 AM) Isn't that considered building a stance ?
@  Callaway_Anthony : (03 October 2014 - 12:28 PM) Unreal what Jamie Sadlowski can do to a golf ball... 331yds from his knees..
@  Jack : (03 October 2014 - 11:09 AM) Yo BSG! What's going onnnnn!
@  rfdegen : (30 September 2014 - 09:30 AM) All I saw over and over was Euros firing at flags, USA middle of green or off. Euros draining putts left and right, UWA missing a lot with tentative strokes.
@  BingHogan : (29 September 2014 - 09:40 AM) Just heard on The Golf Channel -- if Phil and a few others are on in 2016 -- a new Red, White and Blue Skirt will designed for the ladies/guys!
@  BingHogan : (29 September 2014 - 09:37 AM) I don't know why but I am just pissed about this! If you are going to have an AMERICAN FLAG as big as a battleship on - you best be bringing' it!
@  Qwagmire : (29 September 2014 - 09:29 AM) Best line I read about the Ryder Cup: Mickelson: What has been in common with all of our Ryder Cup losses recently? Scribe: Mickelson was on the team. Phil broke the code, threw everyone under the bus
@  BingHogan : (29 September 2014 - 09:12 AM) AMEN QUAGS -- and who picked out their "costumes". Maybe the Golf Channel can do a complete makeover... I'm sure that's next.
@  Qwagmire : (28 September 2014 - 11:18 PM) US Squad is too spoiled to do anything but watch their stock portfolios.
@  BingHogan : (28 September 2014 - 02:11 PM) He then said: PGA's new mantra instead of "These guys are Good" should be: "these Guys Really Suck!" Thanks Professor, we all agree!
@  BingHogan : (28 September 2014 - 02:09 PM) Friend called. Retired law professor. Told me never to use the word SUCK as it was adolescent term.
@  J13 : (28 September 2014 - 07:56 AM) Well i'm glad football is on today
@  BingHogan : (27 September 2014 - 08:08 PM) So,,they can't play in a wee bit of Real golf conditions. Gettin' beat by French guy. Time for a putting lesson!
@  tmfreak : (27 September 2014 - 07:42 PM) US always wears the most horrid outfits, Saturday RC '14 was a new level of awful. cant possibly play let alone win looking like fools.
@  TWshoot67 : (27 September 2014 - 06:30 PM) USA has EURO just where they want them.... USA:6, EURO:10. The writers are ready for the big story and the cliche' title for said story!
@  J13 : (27 September 2014 - 02:28 PM) Watching Jim Furyk putt makes me want to do a sailor dive off the roof of my house. HIT THE BALL ALREADY
@  lamont6266 : (24 September 2014 - 09:43 PM) The only place I have seen pix is on the dealer's price list. I will try to find it.
@  youngwaldo : (24 September 2014 - 03:46 PM) Where are the pictures?
@  lamont6266 : (22 September 2014 - 10:54 PM) Downside? The number of sets coming stateside is very low. Dammit!
@  lamont6266 : (22 September 2014 - 10:53 PM) Did you guys get a peek at the Bridgestone MuscleBack Blades for 2015? SAAAAWWWEEEEET!
@  BingHogan : (22 September 2014 - 04:38 PM) A lot of buzz about the Driver...
@  BingHogan : (22 September 2014 - 04:37 PM) Saw the Nike Vapor line of irons up close today. Supposed to be 3 versions. Very Impressive.
@  J13 : (19 September 2014 - 09:28 AM) Robo is ABOUT TIME. YOUR A SLACKER!!!!!! Hugs
@  ROBOPTI : (18 September 2014 - 07:38 PM) SYSTEM ISSUE REGARDING FAILURE TO UPLOAD - FIXED !!!
@  J13 : (16 September 2014 - 06:54 PM) BRING THE HEAT XPHLEXXX !!!!!!! :4: :4: :4: :4: :4: :4:
@  ROBOPTI : (16 September 2014 - 01:18 PM) 4 DAYS TO REMAX !!!!
@  birmingham1965 : (16 September 2014 - 09:16 AM) 430
@  birmingham1965 : (16 September 2014 - 09:16 AM) 430
@  J13 : (15 September 2014 - 05:49 AM) hhahah love it Robo
@  ROBOPTI : (12 September 2014 - 07:06 PM) Posted Image
@  ROBOPTI : (12 September 2014 - 06:06 PM) Posted Image
@  J13 : (12 September 2014 - 05:05 PM) Happy Friday BSG
@  BingHogan : (12 September 2014 - 11:24 AM) Looks GREAT, TOO.
@  BingHogan : (12 September 2014 - 11:22 AM) First ball out of the box-- Back of the net! Second, straight little draw. As Kenny Perry once said: " I Kain't miss it!" Really haven't hit a driver like that in years!
@  J13 : (12 September 2014 - 09:45 AM) Bio Cell is a hidden gem. Heard Cobra is bringing the HEAT next year.
@  ROBOPTI : (12 September 2014 - 09:44 AM) Bing ... Bio Cell + is AWESOME ... LOVE !!!! mine
@  BingHogan : (11 September 2014 - 08:29 PM) Hit a Cobra Bio Cell driver today. Very underrated. On the BUY list next month.
@  690MBCOMMANDO : (11 September 2014 - 04:18 PM) Playing plenty of golf out here in Half Moon Bay
@  ROBOPTI : (10 September 2014 - 12:22 PM) Posted Image
@  BingHogan : (10 September 2014 - 09:24 AM) Send some of that rain down to California! Central Valley will be gone by next summer if it doesn't rain/snow. Towns without water...
@  rfdegen : (10 September 2014 - 07:31 AM) We're still playing golf here - in between thunderstorms. Record rains in WI. Sucks!
@  TJR : (09 September 2014 - 09:30 PM) I need to play. Been going to the range, but my swing sucks right now. Playing crooked stick in 2 weeks if the weather is decent.
@  MN NICE : (09 September 2014 - 07:27 PM) NFL is BACK!
@  BingHogan : (09 September 2014 - 03:29 PM) Anybody still playing golf out there!? Man, it's dead.
@  youngwaldo : (09 September 2014 - 10:52 AM) Got mine yesterday. Going to test them tomorrow.
@  rfdegen : (09 September 2014 - 08:58 AM) Got my sleeve of test balls and will be testing them tonight, if it doesn't rain again! Crap! We're flooding around here these days. Enough already!
@  burniemac : (09 September 2014 - 07:42 AM) Just got a sleeve of the Titleist test balls in the mail yesterday
@  BingHogan : (08 September 2014 - 06:16 PM) Sleeves that have been handed out. Looks like more spin probably due to lower spinning drivers coming out.
@  TWshoot67 : (08 September 2014 - 01:56 PM) Are we talking the New Titleist sleeves that have been sent out?
@  TWshoot67 : (08 September 2014 - 01:55 PM) @BingHogan is this ball from a New Company or just a new Proto for next years possible selections?
@  BingHogan : (07 September 2014 - 10:10 PM) Testing a new ball prototype tomorrow. Sworn to not to loose it. Just hit it and see...
@  BingHogan : (07 September 2014 - 09:58 PM) Maura Passing Point with KBS V -- Sweet! Hit 200 and couldn't put em down. Great turf interaction and feel.
@  TJR : (06 September 2014 - 09:27 PM) I was talking to someone today and mentioned that this is probably the first time I've been completely satisfied with the clubs in my bag
@  BingHogan : (06 September 2014 - 07:43 PM) Decided to go through ALL my bags and start over from driver to wedges.
@  BingHogan : (06 September 2014 - 07:42 PM) PP - large cavity. Doesn't have the new CB yet. Also the new blade. Really expensive, though. Might have to break out the new MP 69's.
@  TJR : (06 September 2014 - 02:30 PM) Should feel buttery soft. Blade or CB?
@  BingHogan : (06 September 2014 - 09:53 AM) Hitting a Miura with KBS V later today to add to the confusion :rolleyes:
@  TJR : (04 September 2014 - 10:17 AM) I haven't ran into any issues posting pictures from my ipad
@  ROBOPTI : (04 September 2014 - 08:44 AM) http://bombsquadgolf...ldc/#entry69636
@  J13 : (04 September 2014 - 07:37 AM) Can anyone else NOT post pics from an Ipad ??? I get an ERROR every time
@  melonhead : (02 September 2014 - 12:10 PM) Tour proto jetspeed
@  HossOnMoss : (01 September 2014 - 09:33 PM) Std Jetspeed tour 3 wood or the proto head?
@  melonhead : (01 September 2014 - 07:15 PM) How long would a tour issue jetspeed 3 wood play with a 42 1/2 inch shaft?
@  ROBOPTI : (31 August 2014 - 01:42 PM) 0xh

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BSG PLAYER SHAFT TESTING.....Launch Angle + Spin Rate


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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:47 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

How about the new Miyazaki shafts? The blacks are supposed to be among the lowest spinning shafts ever. Already have wins on tour too. Go for an arm and a leg on the bay...
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:28 AM

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.


did that two years ago worked out great. Just wondering if anybody new if I can reuse this shaft with a 8.5 head?
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:02 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.



You might want to check out that head and make sure that it isn't caved or something because there is no way that the 909 is going to spin 1,400 rpm less and have 7 mph more ball speed. There is something wrong there with the club or the guy doing the fitting screwed up the numbers somehow. The shaft should definitely be reusable, but I would recommend at least getting a second set of launch data with the 4250 and having us take a look at the numbers because that doesn't add up in the least bit.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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Edited by Texsport, 21 March 2010 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

where would the whiteboard 7o gram x flex fall in this lineup? I am familiar with that shaft, but not too many others on here. Thank you
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:30 AM

Very interesting that the shaqx is up there too... I think the (mis)conception is that it's a low launch shaft. I also thought the kai'li was going to be higher launch than most and it seems middle to lower in the pack - and I was really hoping to give that one a go... looks like I'll stay with my tusty Altus or Altus LT driver shafts.

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:00 PM

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?



Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.



Testing is very costly and time consuming to conduct. So, it would not make any sense to spend our resources testing product that does not apply to our customer base and membership as a whole. Those heads are made specifically for the purpose of long drive competition and doesn't fit into what BSG offers or what it's members in general are looking for. I would imagine that there is a long drive forum out there somewhere who would be more apt to have such information.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:58 AM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:08 PM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???



TP6HD is slightly different from TP7HD, but nothing drastic. We simply were not able to test every shaft in every flex due to cost and time constraints.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:33 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:49 PM

We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.



Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

Well put and understood, Im glad you guys do this and share with us thats why were all here. tks
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:29 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:33 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!



The CN7 VooDoo is a pretty special shaft in the way that it launches the ball high with such little spin. No other shaft out there really combines those launch aspects the way that the Cinnamon does. I am sure that it just hits flat bombs in a head like your FT Tour. Posted Image

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:23 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.



You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:29 AM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?



We have tested TP6HD, but it was not included in this particular round of testing which is why you do not see it listed in this compilation.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:40 PM

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.



I would say that it is an angle that as a fitter you MUST approach from.....otherwise you are costing your customers performance. There are so many shaft options these days and trying to compare the offerings from one company to another is nearly impossible if you just look at the spec sheets and take them at face value. Not to mention, you have to keep in mind how different swings will react differently to each shaft.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:46 PM

That makes perfect sense cause everyone raves about the voodoo shafts but in my swing those shafts have the largest shot dispursment of any shaft i have ever swung.
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