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@  TWshoot67 : (22 August 2015 - 12:33 PM)

Not sure about the Space port but it's sure easy to add Hot Melt.... LOL

@  TWshoot67 : (22 August 2015 - 12:32 PM)

Yes I really hope Vobra King performs as good as it looks, really like the NEW irons as well the CB's and MB's look fantastic!

@  J13 : (18 August 2015 - 12:43 PM)

NEW COBRA DRIVER - THE KING!!! WOW

@  rfdegen : (17 August 2015 - 08:12 AM)

Spent the day Saturday at Whistling Straights attending the PGA. A great day along Lake Michigan watching some awesome golf!

@  TWshoot67 : (27 July 2015 - 04:58 PM)

yes the new Mizzy line has peaked my interest! Still haven't even tried the 4's and the 5's are out.... sucks being out of golf the last two seasons... but I'm back now!

@  ROBOPTI : (23 July 2015 - 08:37 AM)

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@  HossOnMoss : (22 July 2015 - 09:07 PM)

I believe that Mizuno is suppposed to be expanding their shaft options soon from what I heard. If not, we can always build them KBS Tour V or whatever shaft you would like here at BSG.

@  HossOnMoss : (21 July 2015 - 01:37 PM)

I'm going to get with my rep and see if I can get some in hand pics shortly! I'm looking forward to trying them out myself. The new MP-25 has me really excited!!!

@  HossOnMoss : (14 July 2015 - 09:43 AM)

Thanks guys!

@  KyCutter : (12 July 2015 - 06:46 PM)

Marcus that is awesome news…glad I decided to ck on BSG tonight!

@  Skip512 : (10 July 2015 - 10:16 PM)

Marcus, congratulations! I hit 27 in September. The Chapel Hill magic is still alive after all these years. Tar Heel born Tar Heel Bred!

@  J13 : (06 July 2015 - 07:58 AM)

haha

@  ResearchX : (05 July 2015 - 03:31 PM)

After Robert Streb's back nine at the Old White, who at Titleist makes a better putter these days, Scotty Cameron or Bob Vokey???

@  ResearchX : (09 June 2015 - 06:08 PM)

Congratulations Marcus & wife!!!

@  TWshoot67 : (05 June 2015 - 05:11 PM)

Sorry I missed all the excitement, Congrats Marcus! God Bless you all.

@  J13 : (03 June 2015 - 06:02 PM)

Marcus we just had our 3rd in October which finally was a girl. We are out manned in our house but it's a helluva good time. Congrats again man

@  rfdegen : (03 June 2015 - 09:25 AM)

I called my grandfather with the news of the birth of our second daughter and he said "That's OK. Girls make good fishing partners, too". In addition, I taught them to golf, so we get out once or twice a year when they're home visiting. All good.

@  HossOnMoss : (02 June 2015 - 01:25 PM)

I agree. I've loved every minute of it with my first daughter and another one is fine by me. :D

@  rfdegen : (02 June 2015 - 08:26 AM)

Congratulations, Marcus! We raised two girls. Being constantly surrounded by females and raising girls isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

@  HossOnMoss : (01 June 2015 - 08:43 PM)

Thanks! This one makes 2 girls for us now. So, I'm well out numbered by the women in our household now.

@  Bigskydog : (01 June 2015 - 06:05 PM)

Congrats Marcus! As a father of 3 girls, good luck!

@  TJR : (31 May 2015 - 08:13 PM)

Congrats!

@  petter7 : (31 May 2015 - 07:48 PM)

Way to go Marcus!! Congrats.

@  HossOnMoss : (29 May 2015 - 10:24 AM)

Thanks guys! Everyone is doing great!!!

@  SouthShoreRob : (29 May 2015 - 07:40 AM)

Congrats, Daddy Hoss! I hope you all are doing well :cheers:

@  J13 : (28 May 2015 - 06:54 PM)

Congrats!!!!!!!

@  Qwagmire : (28 May 2015 - 05:12 PM)

Congrats Marcus!!!!

@  slick : (28 May 2015 - 01:03 PM)

Congrats on the little girl Marcus!!! Let the fun begin!

@  ROBOPTI : (28 May 2015 - 07:57 AM)

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@  ROBOPTI : (28 May 2015 - 07:56 AM)

Gang ... Let's all give our own HOSS a BIG CONGRATS. He & Mrs Hoss just had a baby on Tuesday night. A little girl ... Hoss is a little pooped. But they are all doing GREAT

@  viking : (26 May 2015 - 03:58 PM)

callaway

@  ROBOPTI : (20 May 2015 - 10:52 AM)

Posted Image OMG I LOVE !!!! Posted Image looking at this .. Someone tackle me - LOVE !!

@  slick : (16 May 2015 - 10:30 PM)

installed 80X in the driver, playing @44.5". LOVE IT!!!!

@  slick : (12 May 2015 - 05:28 PM) Speirsy, gonna need in person proof lol
@  Speirsy11 : (11 May 2015 - 09:25 PM) it is Slick. I'm hitting iron shots I haven't hit in 10 years and pain free!
@  slick : (11 May 2015 - 05:00 PM) Speirsy, that will be a great combo.
@  rfdegen : (11 May 2015 - 08:06 AM) Great win by Rickie at the Players. Now if he could only ditch the ugly rapper hats.
@  Speirsy11 : (10 May 2015 - 08:20 AM) Best part of turning 40? Graphite in my irons.... Rocketbladez N heads/Aerotech 110cw x = saving my elbow!
@  ROBOPTI : (01 May 2015 - 07:26 AM) FRAKE !!!! ... Bro - Those are 2 RADICALLY !!!! different shafts ... I'd be curious to hear what you think between the 2.
@  Quantum : (01 May 2015 - 05:10 AM) I am playing matrix ozik 130 6.0 stiff and wanted to switch to aldila tour 115 stiff. I am hoping it plays similar except lighter in weight?
@  FRAKETRAIN448 : (30 April 2015 - 08:50 AM) Great day of testing at the Ely Callaway Center - dialed in the new XR LD Heads with XPHLEXXX & FUJI Prototype shafts. Great numbers for first time out this year.
@  J13 : (29 April 2015 - 12:19 PM) All i know is whoever that guy is on the left talking to Mike is a stud. that's all i'm saying. :)
@  ROBOPTI : (29 April 2015 - 11:32 AM) Posted Image
@  HossOnMoss : (28 April 2015 - 07:30 PM) :7: I'll probably just stick to my day job (which doesn't suck either), but it's always fun to "get inside the ropes" on tour when I have the chance.
@  J13 : (28 April 2015 - 05:06 PM) Really happy for Mike. Seemed like a good guy and he now knows your the lucky charm. You might have a new job :)
@  HossOnMoss : (27 April 2015 - 04:25 PM) He kept the nerves in check pretty well all week, but we just had a couple of mental mistakes on the starting nine (back side) on sunday. Regardless of the scores (which I still can't comprehend), that course wasn't playing that easy last week. I fully expected a -2 cut line and never even considered -5 as possibility for the cut. (Insert cliche here) These guys are good!
@  Qwagmire : (26 April 2015 - 11:51 PM) :thumbsup: :4: so glad he could right the ship after a shaky start on round 4. Nerves? I would have been shaking like a dog shitting peach seeds
@  HossOnMoss : (26 April 2015 - 07:48 PM) Thanks guys! We had an awesome week. It's not often that a monday qualifier actually makes the cut on the PGA Tour. So, a T-36 finish is pretty good all things considered. Hopefully just the start of more great things to come for a really nice and talented guy.
@  Qwagmire : (25 April 2015 - 09:41 PM) Keep it going Hoss!
@  J13 : (24 April 2015 - 08:56 PM) Hoss keep reading those greens at the Zurich!!!!! Mike is playing great man!!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (16 April 2015 - 11:01 AM) J thats cool wish I could get to one of those PGA shows soon, must be ho heaven....
@  J13 : (15 April 2015 - 07:22 PM) I didnt bother the counter balance line Converge caught my eye at the PGA Merch Show
@  TWshoot67 : (15 April 2015 - 02:14 PM) Did anyone try and purchase the Nike 006? No luck here, I think I needed to be a robot
@  J13 : (14 April 2015 - 10:49 AM) Speith is a stud and seems like an overall great ambassador for the game. I'm a fan
@  HossOnMoss : (13 April 2015 - 09:26 AM) It was a great week to watch. Speith was as impressive as ever and it was in my opinion equally impressive to see how much Tiger was able to turn his game around in time for Augusta. Pretty remarkable feats by both players. Should be a great summer of golf ahead of us!
@  HossOnMoss : (12 April 2015 - 08:53 PM) That was an awesome display of golf this week by Speith. I don't know how anyone could not like watching that guy play golf.
@  BingHogan : (11 April 2015 - 11:34 PM) I think he'll continue to mow em' down at Augusta. Seems like his destiny. Anyone who goes to a Jesuit High School is OK in my book!
@  TheMechanic : (11 April 2015 - 12:19 PM) who's gonna make a move today @ Augusta
@  BingHogan : (11 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Tiger WHO!?
@  TheMechanic : (10 April 2015 - 12:13 PM) Spieth tearing it up today again....
@  TheMechanic : (09 April 2015 - 03:08 PM) Tiger needs to stop dipping into the ball
@  TheMechanic : (09 April 2015 - 03:07 PM) jordan spieth on FIRE!!!!
@  TWshoot67 : (04 April 2015 - 11:17 AM) Well I guess everyones heard Tiger announced yesterday his in......
@  ROBOPTI : (03 April 2015 - 07:42 AM) Gents ... I snagged a Cally Double Black Diamond from UBER-Boss / HOss .. Gang ... WOW !!!! .. That head is a MONSTER off the tee Posted Image .. Write up coming ... Good lord its good. If you are a Razr Hawk Tour fan - stop what you are doing and snag one ... LOVE Posted Image
@  TWshoot67 : (02 April 2015 - 05:12 PM) J13 I hope he played extremely well...lol
@  rfdegen : (02 April 2015 - 09:38 AM) Played the first nine of the season last eve. Chasing the geese off the course. Wife not happy stepping in their $h!t. Great to get out on a 60* spring Wisconsin day.
@  J13 : (01 April 2015 - 01:20 PM) Well he was spotted there yesterday so I have to think that was a round to see if the game is ready. Hope he played well.
@  TWshoot67 : (01 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I agree I can't see him missing the Masters.....
@  HossOnMoss : (01 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I'll be absolutely shocked if he doesn't play the Masters. I never had a doubt that he would return for Augusta. So, I'll be REALLY surprised if he doesn't play.
@  BingHogan : (01 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) He's gotta play next week. Can't believe he would pass on Augusta...
@  J13 : (31 March 2015 - 07:58 AM) Rumor has it Tiger is making a big announcement in the next 24 hours
@  rfdegen : (30 March 2015 - 01:09 PM) Golf Course opens tomorrow! Also looking forward to UW vs Kentucky on Saturday! Go Badgers!
@  FRAKETRAIN448 : (30 March 2015 - 09:38 AM) Congrats to my Callaway KOD teammate Will Hogue on East Coast Win!
@  SOU812 : (26 March 2015 - 11:23 AM) Sunny and 81* :thumbsup: here in Las Vegas with high temps reaching 90* this weekend!! :9: Let's play some golf!! :golf:
@  rfdegen : (25 March 2015 - 08:45 AM) It looked like golf season was going to be here, with some area courses opening up, but this morning cleared 3" of the white shit from the driveway. Darn!
@  HossOnMoss : (16 March 2015 - 04:45 PM) YEP....golf season is here and it's time to have some fun!!!! :5: :banana1: :dude: :golf:
@  ROBOPTI : (16 March 2015 - 02:06 PM) Posted Image - Kitty
@  ROBOPTI : (16 March 2015 - 02:06 PM) What is up BOMBERS !!!! .. Just an FYI. Hoss & I had a good pow-wow over the weekend .. and we are game-planning for all kinds of new additions & improvements. Gonna get in high gear soon !!! Posted Image
@  rfdegen : (09 March 2015 - 08:38 AM) New driver going in the bag, Titleist 915D3, 9.5*, Diamana Blue stiff. We're melting snow up here, too!
@  J13 : (02 March 2015 - 08:08 PM) Masters!!!!
@  SirSaint77 : (26 February 2015 - 09:40 AM) YOZER!!! Well only 38 days till MASTERS week :yahoo:
@  rfdegen : (26 February 2015 - 09:29 AM) Saint - don't talk to me about weather, unless you're from up here somewhere. -17* again this morning. Crap!
@  SirSaint77 : (26 February 2015 - 09:19 AM) Bubble Shaft coming back as well?
@  ROBOPTI : (26 February 2015 - 09:17 AM) Posted Image - Anyone else get this email with TMAG showing the classic Copper/Black throwback colors. YO TMAG - If you bring back the Copper & BLack - I will follow you to the firey gates. I STILL have a MINT !!!! condition staff bag from that era ... I'd buy the whole damn 14 club run of Copper/Black. A copper & black SLDR - OMG Posted Image LOVE the idea ... I'm ALL IN !!!! Posted Image
@  SirSaint77 : (26 February 2015 - 08:47 AM) SOUNDS LIKE!!!! someone is fed up with THIS WEATHER and needs to get out :golf:
@  ROBOPTI : (19 February 2015 - 01:19 PM) SOUNDS LIKE !!!! someone needs a big glass of QUIT YUR BITCHIN Posted Image Posted Image
@  HossOnMoss : (18 February 2015 - 11:08 PM) Just curious.....but does ANYONE ever read an item description on ebay before asking a question that is clearly answered by doing so? I love helping customers and working with them, but there really is a such thing as a stupid question. Phew...just had to get that off my chest. Rant over. :D
@  gtjr1975 : (18 February 2015 - 03:56 PM) Hey anyone know what shaft has a creme and gray color weave at tip I have pics posted in forums.
@  Shambles : (17 February 2015 - 05:47 PM) I have a set shafted to those 200's. Way soft and kind of fun.
@  BingHogan : (15 February 2015 - 07:01 PM) Thanks Hoss! I put them away until I got a little older... Probably waited too long! :rolleyes:
@  HossOnMoss : (15 February 2015 - 05:10 PM) Bing, those are Dynamic Gold S200 .355 taper iron shafts.
@  BingHogan : (15 February 2015 - 04:07 PM) Anyone have an idea what shafts these are: DGISL200? Just found these in the garage and remember buying them about 10+ years ago. Thanks!
@  Laars : (04 February 2015 - 10:09 AM) Carroll was tricked into doing what he did. Pats don't call a time out, putting it all on Hawks either scoring or losing. Now you have no time, only 30 seconds. If Carroll does a running play first, and doesn't get in, he then MUST throw twice in order to win because he has no time left. Giving the advantage to NE. Go with the pass play first, then run twice. He picked the smarter plays, but in reality, he should give Lynch a shot, and if he doesn't get in, you lose. He looked at having 3 chances better then one. Belichick counted on Carroll doing that, going with 3 chances instead of one chance with Lynch, which on paper, 3 chances looks like the smart play. Carroll got out coached.
@  TWshoot67 : (03 February 2015 - 05:55 PM) J13 I feel pretty much the same. even two days later and I can't figure out why passing even entered anyones mind after the result of the previous play running the ball???????? :spank: :WTF: :nono: :crazy: :crazy:
@  J13 : (02 February 2015 - 07:57 PM) Carrolls call at the end makes me want to stick a nail gun against my temple and unload a clip. What a moron
@  Qwagmire : (02 February 2015 - 04:01 PM) Pats-Hawks, Texas-USC, more NCAA violations than any coach in history? Carroll has reaped what he sowed
@  HossOnMoss : (02 February 2015 - 09:51 AM) That was pretty hard to watch. Not a fan for either team, but it's painful to think that Carroll will be living with that choice for the rest of his life.
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:44 PM) now the biggest cheating nfl coach will go down in history as the best post seaon coach ever,,, blahh
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:42 PM) 2nd and goal from 1 and pass the ball w/ 30 seconds left??????
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:40 PM) dumb@$$ call i have ever seen in super bowl history

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:47 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

How about the new Miyazaki shafts? The blacks are supposed to be among the lowest spinning shafts ever. Already have wins on tour too. Go for an arm and a leg on the bay...
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:28 AM

Email Todd & pay the $50. In the long run, it is cheaper than buying & trying shafts.


did that two years ago worked out great. Just wondering if anybody new if I can reuse this shaft with a 8.5 head?
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:02 AM

I have a bsg built 10.5 4250 with a tp6. Two years ago this club was perfect for me. 14 launch with 2400 spin. Swing changes have happened and now I need an adjustment. i went to titleist fitting center yesterday and had them fit me. they came up with a 909d3 8.5 with a axiv black 79 in stiff. My numbers with this setup was 2600 spin 14.1 launch 156 ball speed. this was an inprovment over my 4250 15 launch 4000 spin and 149 ball speed. The problem is that i love the 4250 feel and look . is there anyway I can salvage either the shaft or head? Any recomendations.



You might want to check out that head and make sure that it isn't caved or something because there is no way that the 909 is going to spin 1,400 rpm less and have 7 mph more ball speed. There is something wrong there with the club or the guy doing the fitting screwed up the numbers somehow. The shaft should definitely be reusable, but I would recommend at least getting a second set of launch data with the 4250 and having us take a look at the numbers because that doesn't add up in the least bit.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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Edited by Texsport, 21 March 2010 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

The data was compiled using Trackman and a player test panel of more than two dozen 5 handicap or better golfers, over the course of the last few months. The results are listed in order from highest to lowest in launch angle. This is NOT robot testing. It is based on real world player data, all hitting the same golf ball, under very similar conditions, on the same range, on the same Trackman unit. :)

Spin rate will come tomorrow. ;)


Launch Angle
Aldila Cinnamon Voodoo = HIGHEST
Fujikura Motore 65
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Fujikura ATL
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Aldila RIP 60
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura Motore 75
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
Graphite Design MD-8
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Graphite Design MD-7
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix OZIK F7M2
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Matrix HD8
Matrix HD7
Matrix HD6
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Graphite Design MD-6
True Temper Project X-6A4
Mitsubishi Iverx
True Temper Project X-7A3
Graphite Desing P9003
True Temper Project X-8A2


Spin Rate
Matrix OZIK F7M2 Low Tip Deflection = LOWEST
Matrix HD8
Graphite Design P9003
Mitsubishi Shaqx
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 70
Aldila Cinnamon VooDoo
Aldila RIP 70
Matrix Ozik TP7HD
Fujikura Motore 75
Aldila RIP 60
Matrix HD6
Aldila VooDoo HL7
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 70
Mitsubishi Fubuki 73
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 60
Aldila RIP 80
Mitsubishi Iverx
Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'li 80
Mitsubishi Bassara Griffin
Matrix OZIK Altus
Matrix OZIK F7M2
True Temper Project X-8A2
Fujikura Rombax 7X07
True Temper Project X-7A3
Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 Tour
Mitsubishi Diamana Stinger 60
Matrix HD7
Fujikura Motore 65
Graphite Design MD-8
Matrix OZIK X-Con5
Mitsubishi Bassara Hawk 53
Fujikura ATL
True Temper Project X-6A4
Graphite Design MD-7
Mitsubishi Bassara Falcon 53
Graphite Design MD-6

where would the whiteboard 7o gram x flex fall in this lineup? I am familiar with that shaft, but not too many others on here. Thank you
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TITLEIST 910H 17 DG X100
TITLEIST 710MB 3-PW DG X100
TITLEIST Vokey CC 53, 58 SPINNER+
TITLEIST SC Laguna 2 Heavy

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:30 AM

Very interesting that the shaqx is up there too... I think the (mis)conception is that it's a low launch shaft. I also thought the kai'li was going to be higher launch than most and it seems middle to lower in the pack - and I was really hoping to give that one a go... looks like I'll stay with my tusty Altus or Altus LT driver shafts.

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?
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TITLEIST 910F-d 15 PX 8A4
TITLEIST 910H 17 DG X100
TITLEIST 710MB 3-PW DG X100
TITLEIST Vokey CC 53, 58 SPINNER+
TITLEIST SC Laguna 2 Heavy

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:00 PM

Where would the whiteboard 73x and the Graphite Design DI 6 and 7 fit in this list?



Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

Since this was done with player testing, it would be pure speculation to say where either shaft would fit into this particular data. I know for instance how those shafts compare performance wise in general to many shafts on this list, but it would be inaccurate to throw them into a particular ranking without actually testing them within the same group as these were.

What I can say is that DI would be comparable in most instances to RIP or Fubuki in terms of launch and spin. WB would probably be somewhat closer to a shaft like HD7.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 08:07 PM

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I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

I think that it would be awesome for you BSG to do a ball speed, spin rate, and carry distance test on some of the top long drive component heads.



Testing is very costly and time consuming to conduct. So, it would not make any sense to spend our resources testing product that does not apply to our customer base and membership as a whole. Those heads are made specifically for the purpose of long drive competition and doesn't fit into what BSG offers or what it's members in general are looking for. I would imagine that there is a long drive forum out there somewhere who would be more apt to have such information.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:58 AM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:08 PM

todd or marcus ,

why is the tp6hd not on here, because it is exactly same as tp7hd but lighter???



TP6HD is slightly different from TP7HD, but nothing drastic. We simply were not able to test every shaft in every flex due to cost and time constraints.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:33 PM

I'm surprised that the ATTAS and OBAN shafts weren't tested, as lots of Tour players have tried 'em. Furyk won today with an OBAN Devotion.

The Griffin is looking like it needs a personal test by me.

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We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:49 PM

We had to wait a long time for more shaft testing and rankings, Im curious as well as to why 2 top shafts were not tested, hope we dont have to wait another 2 years for shaft testing and numbers on those top rated shafts. disappointed I guess, I have played the Kai'li 70 and I think it would be around the same launch as the fubuki 73. Im currently gaming the Oban Devotion 7 and it would be fit in the spot where the Kai'li 70 is right now on the launch and would definitely be 2 or 3 on the low spin, For me its 10 yards longer then the Kai'li 70. I will be gaming the Attas 6 next week I will let you know what its like.



Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

Well, we could always just keep the testing information completely to ourselves to use soley for the purpose of fitting our customers. Posted Image That said, it is nice to share what we can and it should make for some informative and interesting discussion. Unfortunately, it just is not feasible to test EVERY shaft that is out there. Regardless of the fact that some might like or play certain shafts, the fact of the matter is that Oban and Attas are still hardly a blip on the radar when it comes to what is played on tour. I know that there are several notable players on tour using them, but you have to narrow it down at some point and what you see tested are shafts that are tour proven and FAR more popular for the most part. I would be more than happy to test those products if they were provided to us by the manufacturers, but we have PLENTY to keep up with in the meantime.

Well put and understood, Im glad you guys do this and share with us thats why were all here. tks
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:29 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:33 AM

Just want to THANK the BSG boys for their shaft testing data. Without this valuable "FREE" info we would not be able to shortcut the route to the perfect driver. Never heard of the Voodoo Cinnamon before this data sheet and now is my gamer. Have the SCN7 in a FT Tour Authentic 9.5 head and can't expect any better results. Not only is their data correct with the high launch that plateau's but the decent angle is extremely shallow due to the low spin so ground distance will be at it's maximum. Thanks again!



The CN7 VooDoo is a pretty special shaft in the way that it launches the ball high with such little spin. No other shaft out there really combines those launch aspects the way that the Cinnamon does. I am sure that it just hits flat bombs in a head like your FT Tour. Posted Image

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:23 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

how on earth can the Aldila RIP60 have less spin then the RIP80? Makes no sense.



You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:29 AM

Did you guys not test TP6HD?



We have tested TP6HD, but it was not included in this particular round of testing which is why you do not see it listed in this compilation.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

You wouldn't expect that and it certainly will not be the case for everyone, but those are the kinds of things that you find at times with player testing. What you would think on paper or based on robot testing is not always how things pan out real world with humun swings. That's why there is a LOT more to shaft fitting than just looking at a list such as this and picking a shaft that launches higher or spins less. You have to take a shaft's tendencies and fit them to a specific swing and that is where the art of shaft fitting comes into play. Testing data like this is very informative and interesting, but it's just a piece of the puzzle really.

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:40 PM

That is very interesting. This definately offers a different angle on shaft fitting.



I would say that it is an angle that as a fitter you MUST approach from.....otherwise you are costing your customers performance. There are so many shaft options these days and trying to compare the offerings from one company to another is nearly impossible if you just look at the spec sheets and take them at face value. Not to mention, you have to keep in mind how different swings will react differently to each shaft.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:46 PM

That makes perfect sense cause everyone raves about the voodoo shafts but in my swing those shafts have the largest shot dispursment of any shaft i have ever swung.
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