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@  gtjr1975 : (18 February 2015 - 03:56 PM) Hey anyone know what shaft has a creme and gray color weave at tip I have pics posted in forums.
@  Shambles : (17 February 2015 - 05:47 PM) I have a set shafted to those 200's. Way soft and kind of fun.
@  BingHogan : (15 February 2015 - 07:01 PM) Thanks Hoss! I put them away until I got a little older... Probably waited too long! :rolleyes:
@  HossOnMoss : (15 February 2015 - 05:10 PM) Bing, those are Dynamic Gold S200 .355 taper iron shafts.
@  BingHogan : (15 February 2015 - 04:07 PM) Anyone have an idea what shafts these are: DGISL200? Just found these in the garage and remember buying them about 10+ years ago. Thanks!
@  Laars : (04 February 2015 - 10:09 AM) Carroll was tricked into doing what he did. Pats don't call a time out, putting it all on Hawks either scoring or losing. Now you have no time, only 30 seconds. If Carroll does a running play first, and doesn't get in, he then MUST throw twice in order to win because he has no time left. Giving the advantage to NE. Go with the pass play first, then run twice. He picked the smarter plays, but in reality, he should give Lynch a shot, and if he doesn't get in, you lose. He looked at having 3 chances better then one. Belichick counted on Carroll doing that, going with 3 chances instead of one chance with Lynch, which on paper, 3 chances looks like the smart play. Carroll got out coached.
@  TWshoot67 : (03 February 2015 - 05:55 PM) J13 I feel pretty much the same. even two days later and I can't figure out why passing even entered anyones mind after the result of the previous play running the ball???????? :spank: :WTF: :nono: :crazy: :crazy:
@  J13 : (02 February 2015 - 07:57 PM) Carrolls call at the end makes me want to stick a nail gun against my temple and unload a clip. What a moron
@  Qwagmire : (02 February 2015 - 04:01 PM) Pats-Hawks, Texas-USC, more NCAA violations than any coach in history? Carroll has reaped what he sowed
@  HossOnMoss : (02 February 2015 - 09:51 AM) That was pretty hard to watch. Not a fan for either team, but it's painful to think that Carroll will be living with that choice for the rest of his life.
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:44 PM) now the biggest cheating nfl coach will go down in history as the best post seaon coach ever,,, blahh
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:42 PM) 2nd and goal from 1 and pass the ball w/ 30 seconds left??????
@  TWshoot67 : (01 February 2015 - 09:40 PM) dumb@$$ call i have ever seen in super bowl history
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@  BingHogan : (26 January 2015 - 09:54 AM) Ditto that Joe! I like em because you can have the correct loft and sole grind.
@  houstonjoe : (24 January 2015 - 03:46 PM) never been more excited about a release..Hogan Ft. Worth irons..Hoss, ready to order my set!!
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@  rfdegen : (22 January 2015 - 09:30 AM) Heading to Texas on a sales trip. Twin Rivers Golf Club, Waco. Second course to be determined in Fort Worth.
@  BingHogan : (21 January 2015 - 06:38 PM) Hey rfdegen, where you playing in February?
@  BingHogan : (21 January 2015 - 06:35 PM) Thanks Hoss! Sounds like they made the irons to my exact specs and added the Hogan name. Good things happen to those who wait!
@  rfdegen : (21 January 2015 - 02:02 PM) 6 days of scuba diving St. Thomas coming up next week! No golf this time. That happens in mid-February.
@  HossOnMoss : (21 January 2015 - 09:51 AM) Bing: You got it my friend. These are right up your alley!
@  BingHogan : (21 January 2015 - 09:28 AM) HOSS: Please let me know when the HOGAN irons are available. i will order a 8 and 6 iron with KBS V Tour S.
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@  KyCutter : (19 January 2015 - 07:25 PM) I haven't been around for a while…..but it looks like I'm not the only one…whats up with BSG??
@  petter7 : (14 January 2015 - 01:40 AM) This one feels better than my freshman year when the Buckeyes slaughtered Michigan and then kicked OJ's butt in the Rose Bowl…and I was at both those games.
@  HossOnMoss : (13 January 2015 - 11:12 AM) @pingbear: I am not 100% sure on this so don't hold me to it, but I believe that they are made by Aldila. I could very well be wrong, but that's what I have been told.
@  HossOnMoss : (13 January 2015 - 11:10 AM) @petter7: Hard to imagine that Ohio State didn't even belong in the playoffs according to many, huh? Nothing against any other teams since I had not dog in this fight, but I wasn't disappointed to see OSU win it.
@  petter7 : (13 January 2015 - 12:27 AM) Buckeyes rule! Undisputed National Champions!
@  pingbear : (12 January 2015 - 11:41 PM) does anyone know who makes ping's tour 65&80 shafts
@  SOU812 : (12 January 2015 - 01:30 PM) I need a 3 wood that I can hit off the deck. Help!!!
@  J13 : (31 December 2014 - 09:59 PM) Rfdegen- thats horrible man lo
@  J13 : (31 December 2014 - 09:59 PM) Hoss- yes, career best 2 months ago with 67 (-5) and then monday another best 65 (-7). Playing the best golf of my life these last 3 months.
@  rfdegen : (31 December 2014 - 08:28 AM) J13 - We've got a minus score here this morning, too: minus 10* - below zero F!
@  HossOnMoss : (30 December 2014 - 06:13 PM) J, that makes it your career low AND lower this year right? 67 and now 65! Shaving the strokes off fast my man!
@  J13 : (30 December 2014 - 05:10 PM) Thanks Rfdegen, and ain't that the truth!!
@  rfdegen : (30 December 2014 - 10:42 AM) Congrats J13! That's going out of 2014 with a bang.
@  J13 : (29 December 2014 - 05:59 PM) Shot a career best -7 (65) today. Today is a GREAT day!!! Hoss built irons were money!
@  Brizam : (24 December 2014 - 12:09 PM) MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! Hope everyone gets all the gear they are hoping for.
@  rfdegen : (19 December 2014 - 09:45 AM) 15* here this morning. But our indoor range is open and we're able to swing a club again.
@  J13 : (18 December 2014 - 09:58 AM) I play a variety of shafts but the Rome 988 is the best hybrid shaft on the planet
@  Quantum : (16 December 2014 - 11:02 AM) Can you compare 904hb vs DI 95 vs veylix 988?
@  HossOnMoss : (15 December 2014 - 06:56 PM) Did I forget to tell you about these? http://bombsquadgolf...214/#entry71313
@  ROBOPTI : (15 December 2014 - 09:49 AM) PINK RECOILS ?? .... where ?? ... I love it already
@  TWshoot67 : (14 December 2014 - 03:09 PM) OH those PINK Recoils are calling my name.... :golf: :golf: :yahoo:
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@  SouthShoreRob : (27 November 2014 - 09:01 AM) @ROBOPTI: I've got Modus Tour 120 shafts coming from Hoss. Can't wait to try them out!
@  SouthShoreRob : (27 November 2014 - 08:55 AM) Happy Thanksgiving BSG!! :kev: :chat: :cheers:
@  ROBOPTI : (25 November 2014 - 08:41 AM) Modus is the best steel shaft out there .. PERIOD :thumbsup:
@  biu997 : (24 November 2014 - 10:25 PM) nippon modus
@  HossOnMoss : (24 November 2014 - 01:37 PM) @TWshoot67: Hard to say what the outcome and results will be, but hiring Como is a good move. He is one of these guys that is really on the cutting edge of the science of the golf swing which will blend well with what Tiger was doing under Foley. Como without a doubt though will have to make some changes, but at least it's not a total "start over" process and he knows what he's doing. Looks like Tiger is going to take more control over what he does with his game rather than following a teacher's instruction to the letter.
@  HossOnMoss : (24 November 2014 - 01:35 PM) @BingHogan: That would be a good test. Without a real formal apples to apples test, my impressions are that KBS Tour V actually shares a mix of characteristics from Modus 120 and 130.
@  TWshoot67 : (23 November 2014 - 01:11 PM) So what's everyones take on Tiger's new swing coach, Chris Como. Thoughts?
@  BingHogan : (21 November 2014 - 01:47 PM) Hey Hoss, any thoughts on doing a comparison of the Nippon 120's vs the KBS Tour V Tour?
@  HossOnMoss : (20 November 2014 - 10:48 AM) What do you guys think about Golf Digest's / Dan Jenkins' recent "interview" with Tiger? http://bombsquadgolf...iew-with-tiger/
@  ROBOPTI : (14 November 2014 - 10:14 AM) Bing - Birds of a feather - Those are the same 2 I am beating on lately (BC+ / 30)
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@  HossOnMoss : (12 November 2014 - 08:47 PM) Check out these Taylormade tour issue TP wedges and UDI's including the rare 47° PW and 23° #4 UDI. http://bombsquadgolf...-utility-irons/
@  HossOnMoss : (11 November 2014 - 07:43 PM) And by the way guys, the new Big Bertha Alpha 815 and DBD heads exceeded my expectations today in my initial testing. Really good stuff from Rutherford Road in these new heads! :smilie_cally:
@  HossOnMoss : (11 November 2014 - 07:39 PM) @rfdegen: If it makes you feel any better, I don't take it for granted. :D
@  rfdegen : (11 November 2014 - 03:08 PM) While Hoss is checking out the Game Golf and checking in new releases, we're shoveling snow.
@  HossOnMoss : (10 November 2014 - 10:11 PM) The new Big Bertha 815 heads look killer! New Titleist 915 drivers are on the way as well. I foresee a shootout on Trackman in the few days!!!
@  J13 : (10 November 2014 - 06:30 PM) Very Very nice !!!! Heard the DBD is NASTY!
@  HossOnMoss : (10 November 2014 - 05:45 PM) New Big Bertha 815 Alpha and Double Black Diamond driver heads are in and they look AWESOME!!!
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@  ROBOPTI : (06 November 2014 - 12:24 PM) THANKS GANG gang - And YES Sir Miller was using the XPHLEXXX ;) ... I feel aweful for him. He really wanted it. I am back in town - Got a bunch of pics - I'll be back soon
@  Qwagmire : (05 November 2014 - 10:37 AM) they gave Joe and XPHLEXXX a shout out, great job ROBO. Free Samples? :4:
@  J13 : (05 November 2014 - 06:54 AM) Correct me if i'm wrong but watching tv, Joe Miller was using an XPHLEXXX. Robo great work getting your shaft in the top 8 you have a lot to be proud of brother!!!!
@  slick : (04 November 2014 - 01:56 PM) Red Stripe...Check! Chips & Salsa....Check! Watching the Remax WLDC Tonight...CHECK!
@  Callaway_Anthony : (02 November 2014 - 05:58 PM) Golf Channel 11/4 10pm EST
@  Callaway_Anthony : (02 November 2014 - 05:58 PM) Everyone be sure to watch the longest hitters in the world compete for $250k!
@  J13 : (30 October 2014 - 04:13 PM) Thanks my man can't recommend your builds enough :6:
@  HossOnMoss : (30 October 2014 - 01:05 PM) That's awesome, J!!! I appreciate the kind feedback. Congrats! :thumbsup:
@  J13 : (29 October 2014 - 05:52 PM) Hellooooooo out there. My Hoss built irons recently helped me shoot an all time low of 67 from the tips. Marcus your work is second to none my friend.
@  rfdegen : (27 October 2014 - 12:48 PM) Played my last 18 of the season on Friday. Course closes this weekend, but I'll be in Iowa pheasant hunting.
@  Armyguy13 : (20 October 2014 - 08:14 PM) Voted for Andrew --- he's currently in the lead with 65.5% to 26.5% being the next place vote getter
@  TWshoot67 : (20 October 2014 - 04:54 PM) Andrew great job and I hope you make the Guinness book of world records. You got my vote! shared and tweeted.
@  HossOnMoss : (20 October 2014 - 01:46 PM) @Quantum: Rome 988 is actually a little smoother feeling and higher launch than DI-95 hybrid without feeling "loose" or being spinny. Rome 888 is going to launch lower and spin less than Speeder 757.
@  ROBOPTI : (17 October 2014 - 03:05 PM) BSGers - Fellow member & Cally Kings of Distance member Fraketrain needs our help !!! - For a spot in the Guiness Book of World Records http://www.guinnessw...ote-now!-61189/
@  Quantum : (17 October 2014 - 05:56 AM) Can you compare veylix 988 to GD DI 95 hybrid? Also veylix 888 to Fuji speeder 757?
@  J13 : (15 October 2014 - 06:11 AM) Congrats Robo I have it DVR'ed to watch can't wait. Well DONE !!!!!
@  ROBOPTI : (14 October 2014 - 11:14 AM) 1st episode of the REMAX WLDC is TONIGHT at 9PM CST ... Tune in and look for XPHLEXXX !!! ... Our Team had a GREAT showing !!!!
@  ROBOPTI : (14 October 2014 - 11:13 AM) 2014 REMAX WORLD LONG DRIVER CHAMIONSHIP pics going up longdrive section - and I have a TON !!!!!!!!!!!! more
@  ROBOPTI : (10 October 2014 - 07:45 AM) Posted Image ... WHAT IS UP !!! .. Gang - Been away for a while ... But - I AM BACK !!!! .. And I Have an insane amount of photos & info to share. Here we go !!!
@  BingHogan : (08 October 2014 - 10:29 AM) They still have a few I 20's on the shelf. Just need somethin' until all the new drivers come out next spring.
@  J13 : (07 October 2014 - 07:50 AM) I"m using an I25 now love it but the G30 LST is coming around January
@  BingHogan : (07 October 2014 - 12:08 AM) So, is the Ping I 25 dead!? Loved the I 20 with the K.
@  BingHogan : (05 October 2014 - 09:27 PM) Saw him hit a putter 280! Then saw him play and putted -- 280... :rolleyes:
@  youngwaldo : (05 October 2014 - 11:12 AM) Yes it is, but we can give him a break because its just for show.
@  Shambles : (05 October 2014 - 03:11 AM) Isn't that considered building a stance ?
@  Callaway_Anthony : (03 October 2014 - 12:28 PM) Unreal what Jamie Sadlowski can do to a golf ball... 331yds from his knees..

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

Does anyone have any info on the aldila atx shafts? Supposedly they are super hot on tour but long story short I hit the atx 65 blue x shaft and I was bombing it.

I'm currently playing fubuki k which is supposed to be high launch but I was launching the atx blue way higher with little spin

They say its a mid launch and the green is low launch from what I was told and the shaft felt really really smooth

I've never like aldila shafts. I've tried many and hit them all equally shitty for some reason but this thing seeems legit for me.....

There is very little info that I could find on it but I launched it noticeably higher than my k with same weight and flex???,

Anyone else try them??
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Some info I found on these shafts. The tour green is a low launching and spinning shaft based of the NV. The tour blue is a high launching and low spinning shaft based off the VS Proto.
I did read that there is supposedly a tour silver version also. There was nothing said about it's specs or profile.

Here is a list of tour players playing each (From March 2013):


Tour Green:
Robert Allenby-Tour Green 65-Driver
Arjun Atwal-Tour Green 85-Hybrid
Angel Cabrera-Tour Green 75-Driver
Angel Cabrera Jr.-Tour Green 75-Driver
Rafael Campos-Tour Green 65-Driver
James Driscoll-Tour Green 105-Hybrid
Ken Duke-Tour Green 65-Driver, 75-3 wood
Jim Furyk-Tour Green 75-Driver
Scott Gardiner-Tour Green 75-3 wood
Lucas Glover-Tour Green 75-Driver, 95-3 wood
Ryuji Imada-Tour Green 65-Driver
Matteo Manassero-Tour Green 65-Driver
Steve Marino-Tour Green 85-3 wood
Chez Reavie-Tour Green 65-Driver
Andres Romero-Tour Green 65-Driver
Shawn Stefani-Tour Green 85-Hybrid
Lee Westwood-Tour Green 65-Driver,75-3 wood, 85-Hybrid

Tour Blue
Arjun Atwal-Tour Blue 85-Hybrid
Cameron Beckman-Tour Blue 75-Driver,85-hybrids
Greg Chamlers-Tour Blue 85-3 wood
Scott Gardiner-Tour Blue 65-Driver
David Lingmerth-Tour Blue 75-3 wood
David Lynn-Tour Blue 75-3wood
John Mallinger-Tour Blue 65-Driver
Ryan Moore-Tour Blue 65-Driver
Chez Reavie-Tour Blue 75-3 wood, 85 hybrid
Wes Short Jr-Tour Blue 95-3 wood
Vaughn Taylor-Tour Blue 85,3 wood & 5 wood
David Toms-Tour Blue 65-Driver

Couple of pics I found:

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mjl, I did find this review from a guy that has hit these shafts. I'm not sure what his skill level is though. Might be helpful to you...


These shafts have very active middle sections. They spun a bit more than I would prefer and launched a tad higher. I'm keeping the Tour AD BB7x in the bag for now. If I had to describe an ATX, it's like a combo of a RIP Beta and a Phenom. Or perhaps a Phenom with an even softer mid section. So stiff butt, soft mid, stiff tip. I definetly preferred the Tour Green over the Tour Blue. The few I did hit well were higher launching with mid spin. Distance was ok but not much roll for me. My hard late release I kept getting stuck or losing feeling of where the driver head was. I let my buddy hit a few with my driver, we thought he absolutely killed one and it ended up next to his gamer 3W (which he absolutely crushes every time.) Both were dead center of the FWY, 285y out, but spin made the ATX rise and distance suffered. It may not be for me but for guys with a smoother transition I bet it feels nice with perfect kick and the spin you want. Obviously it works for Carbrera who used to play the ProtoPype. Each swing is different, so don't judge the shaft by my critique. Maybe some more who have hit it can chime in how it performed for them. Its obviously popular on tour, maybe tipping and length are critical? I tipped both mine 3/4" and played them around 45.5", choked up to 45".
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:26 PM

mjl, here's the aldila Rogue prototype shaft Westwood is using you may find interesting. Might be the silver version I heard about.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

I came across the blue version 75 X in a G25 9.5 that had been owned by a champions tour member. I currently game a 8.5 Razr Fit with AD DI 6x tipped an inch. ATX blue had no tipping to my knowledge. Hit 25 or so balls on the launch monitor. Felt very smooth. Launch and spin were a bit high compared to my current set up. With the proper tipping or in the Green version, it might be a better fit for me. Could definitely see this being a solid shaft based off my limited experience with it.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 08:21 PM

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mjl, here's the aldila Rogue prototype shaft Westwood is using you may find interesting. Might be the silver version I heard about.

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So Lee Westwood is hitting a 10.5?
I had to go to an 8 degree to keep spin off and really struggle to hit the driver on off days....
I would be more than willing to bet he has a negative attack angle........
How the hell is he hitting a 10.5 or 11.5 with a 65 gram shaft? Do they tip it 8 inches???
I am thinking he must have a 10.5 that is cast really open???

Id love to have the forgiveness of higher lofted head but into the wind I hit parachuters.....
Anyone got any input on this?????

My experience is you can only affect spin so much with shafts until you have to decrease loft.....

I had a titleist head 9.5 and tried 20 different shat an tipping schemes and always poofed it into the wind

Finally I got an 8 from hoss and its a penetrating ball flight but much harder to hit and turn over.... The titleist was a retail head

Do these guys go higher loft and really open to get penetrating trajectory?

Seems its the same thing Michelson has always fought ...... going to real low lofts to keep spin down

even my super deep 9.5 into the wind hits poofers

any thoughts???

I see these guys like Westwood and Dustin Johnson hitting these high lofted drivers and it makes me wanna cry

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:54 PM

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Id love to have the forgiveness of higher lofted head but into the wind I hit parachuters.....
Anyone got any input on this?????

I see these guys like Westwood and Dustin Johnson hitting these high lofted drivers and it makes me wanna cry


Two words mjl...

SPIN LOFT

That's the angle created between the club direction (AoA) and the club oreientation (Dynamic Loft). The greater that angle is, the
more spin there will be imparted to the ball. I would bet Westwood has a flat AoA (zero degrees) and he keeps the delivered loft
from being increased with his release.

If you want to lower spin and avoid that parachute ball flight, control the angle between your AoA and dynamic loft at impact. You
can effect the spin loft with a lower lofted driver, but, if your swing has a tendency to produce a higher degree of spin loft, you'll
get too much spin anyways. A really stiff shaft and low lofted club can be effective in reducing spin, but, for a lot of amateurs who
have good swing speed and a high spin loft, it's really just a band aid solution.

Flatten out that AoA and control that delivered dynamic loft at impact and hit the ball on the right place of the club face and you'll
never balloon another tee shot again. That's assuming you have a quality shaft/club/ball setup.

Plenty of information to be had on the internet...just google "Spin Loft" and click on images and you'll see plenty on the subject.
You can then go to the web pages from the pics to get further explanatioins.

Here's a video that explains spin loft...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCgkXvJYlw
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:17 PM

Two words mjl...

SPIN LOFT

That's the angle created between the club direction (AoA) and the club oreientation (Dynamic Loft). The greater that angle is, the
more spin there will be imparted to the ball. I would bet Westwood has a flat AoA (zero degrees) and he keeps the delivered loft
from being increased with his release.

If you want to lower spin and avoid that parachute ball flight, control the angle between your AoA and dynamic loft at impact. You
can effect the spin loft with a lower lofted driver, but, if your swing has a tendency to produce a higher degree of spin loft, you'll
get too much spin anyways. A really stiff shaft and low lofted club can be effective in reducing spin, but, for a lot of amateurs who
have good swing speed and a high spin loft, it's really just a band aid solution.

Flatten out that AoA and control that delivered dynamic loft at impact and hit the ball on the right place of the club face and you'll
never balloon another tee shot again. That's assuming you have a quality shaft/club/ball setup.

Plenty of information to be had on the internet...just google "Spin Loft" and click on images and you'll see plenty on the subject.
You can then go to the web pages from the pics to get further explanatioins.

Here's a video that explains spin loft...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCgkXvJYlw

You think Westwood is flat Aoa?

I would think he's hitting down but maybe not

I heard tour average is -1, I'm about -2

I saw somehwere Justin rose was playing 9.3 and 6 degrees open maybe ??!

I'm thinking they gotta all be opening the shot out of their drivers
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:35 PM

You think Westwood is flat Aoa?

I would think he's hitting down but maybe not

I heard tour average is -1, I'm about -2

I saw somehwere Justin rose was playing 9.3 and 6 degrees open maybe ??!

I'm thinking they gotta all be opening the shot out of their drivers


I'm pretty sure that Rose's specs for the face angle are including the sole dial being set open on his R1 which does not affect loft. So, his head isn't delofted as you would think.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

I'm pretty sure that Rose's specs for the face angle are including the sole dial being set open on his R1 which does not affect loft. So, his head isn't delofted as you would think.

Hoss

Do you think that may be accurate as to the trend on tour? Higher loft but more open faces to flatten out trajectory or no?

I cant believe Lee Westwood could hit an 11.5.

I heard nick watney hits a 12 and he can move it
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:44 PM

Hoss

Do you think that may be accurate as to the trend on tour? Higher loft but more open faces to flatten out trajectory or no?

I cant believe Lee Westwood could hit an 11.5.

I heard nick watney hits a 12 and he can move it



I saw a spec sheet that someone posted a long time ago, claiming that Tiger is actually hitting close to 11* loft driver despite it's stamped 8.5* on the head.

I do agree that it is all the result of your swing and tendencies. Getting the right shaft-head combo worked, but it can only help you so much.

IMO the easiest way if to fix your -ve AoA and check your impact point on the face of your driver. I do not think -2 AoA alone will create a a parachute. Just my 2-cents
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:10 PM

I saw a spec sheet that someone posted a long time ago, claiming that Tiger is actually hitting close to 11* loft driver despite it's stamped 8.5* on the head.

I do agree that it is all the result of your swing and tendencies. Getting the right shaft-head combo worked, but it can only help you so much.

IMO the easiest way if to fix your -ve AoA and check your impact point on the face of your driver. I do not think -2 AoA alone will create a a parachute. Just my 2-cents

Ill tell you what else I think is crazy is that with all the movements in a golf swing that a 1 degree difference in driver loft can consistently make such a dramatic difference in flight and performance.

I mean think about all the factors and movements coming into impact and 1 degree makes a difference.....

That's frickin nuts to me....

And no Im not stoned right now....

Edited by mjl, 21 June 2013 - 08:12 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 08:14 AM

Now that RIP iron shafts are taking over this boards buzz, does anyone have feedback on the new Aldila ATX shafts specifically the blue?
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:00 AM

D, I'm playing the ATX blue 85 tx flex in my stage 2 hl 3wood. was playing the di8x. feel is the same to me, but on my trackman, little higher launch and little less spin. after about 40 balls each going back and forth, 9 carry yards on average with the blue, but the dispersion was significantly better with blue. im one of the lucky few with a rouge (#29 of 50) thats in my sldr 10.5. now that combo is completely ridiculous
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