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#1 mjl

 
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

Does anyone have any info on the aldila atx shafts? Supposedly they are super hot on tour but long story short I hit the atx 65 blue x shaft and I was bombing it.

I'm currently playing fubuki k which is supposed to be high launch but I was launching the atx blue way higher with little spin

They say its a mid launch and the green is low launch from what I was told and the shaft felt really really smooth

I've never like aldila shafts. I've tried many and hit them all equally shitty for some reason but this thing seeems legit for me.....

There is very little info that I could find on it but I launched it noticeably higher than my k with same weight and flex???,

Anyone else try them??
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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Some info I found on these shafts. The tour green is a low launching and spinning shaft based of the NV. The tour blue is a high launching and low spinning shaft based off the VS Proto.
I did read that there is supposedly a tour silver version also. There was nothing said about it's specs or profile.

Here is a list of tour players playing each (From March 2013):


Tour Green:
Robert Allenby-Tour Green 65-Driver
Arjun Atwal-Tour Green 85-Hybrid
Angel Cabrera-Tour Green 75-Driver
Angel Cabrera Jr.-Tour Green 75-Driver
Rafael Campos-Tour Green 65-Driver
James Driscoll-Tour Green 105-Hybrid
Ken Duke-Tour Green 65-Driver, 75-3 wood
Jim Furyk-Tour Green 75-Driver
Scott Gardiner-Tour Green 75-3 wood
Lucas Glover-Tour Green 75-Driver, 95-3 wood
Ryuji Imada-Tour Green 65-Driver
Matteo Manassero-Tour Green 65-Driver
Steve Marino-Tour Green 85-3 wood
Chez Reavie-Tour Green 65-Driver
Andres Romero-Tour Green 65-Driver
Shawn Stefani-Tour Green 85-Hybrid
Lee Westwood-Tour Green 65-Driver,75-3 wood, 85-Hybrid

Tour Blue
Arjun Atwal-Tour Blue 85-Hybrid
Cameron Beckman-Tour Blue 75-Driver,85-hybrids
Greg Chamlers-Tour Blue 85-3 wood
Scott Gardiner-Tour Blue 65-Driver
David Lingmerth-Tour Blue 75-3 wood
David Lynn-Tour Blue 75-3wood
John Mallinger-Tour Blue 65-Driver
Ryan Moore-Tour Blue 65-Driver
Chez Reavie-Tour Blue 75-3 wood, 85 hybrid
Wes Short Jr-Tour Blue 95-3 wood
Vaughn Taylor-Tour Blue 85,3 wood & 5 wood
David Toms-Tour Blue 65-Driver

Couple of pics I found:

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mjl, I did find this review from a guy that has hit these shafts. I'm not sure what his skill level is though. Might be helpful to you...


These shafts have very active middle sections. They spun a bit more than I would prefer and launched a tad higher. I'm keeping the Tour AD BB7x in the bag for now. If I had to describe an ATX, it's like a combo of a RIP Beta and a Phenom. Or perhaps a Phenom with an even softer mid section. So stiff butt, soft mid, stiff tip. I definetly preferred the Tour Green over the Tour Blue. The few I did hit well were higher launching with mid spin. Distance was ok but not much roll for me. My hard late release I kept getting stuck or losing feeling of where the driver head was. I let my buddy hit a few with my driver, we thought he absolutely killed one and it ended up next to his gamer 3W (which he absolutely crushes every time.) Both were dead center of the FWY, 285y out, but spin made the ATX rise and distance suffered. It may not be for me but for guys with a smoother transition I bet it feels nice with perfect kick and the spin you want. Obviously it works for Carbrera who used to play the ProtoPype. Each swing is different, so don't judge the shaft by my critique. Maybe some more who have hit it can chime in how it performed for them. Its obviously popular on tour, maybe tipping and length are critical? I tipped both mine 3/4" and played them around 45.5", choked up to 45".
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:26 PM

mjl, here's the aldila Rogue prototype shaft Westwood is using you may find interesting. Might be the silver version I heard about.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

I came across the blue version 75 X in a G25 9.5 that had been owned by a champions tour member. I currently game a 8.5 Razr Fit with AD DI 6x tipped an inch. ATX blue had no tipping to my knowledge. Hit 25 or so balls on the launch monitor. Felt very smooth. Launch and spin were a bit high compared to my current set up. With the proper tipping or in the Green version, it might be a better fit for me. Could definitely see this being a solid shaft based off my limited experience with it.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 08:21 PM

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mjl, here's the aldila Rogue prototype shaft Westwood is using you may find interesting. Might be the silver version I heard about.

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So Lee Westwood is hitting a 10.5?
I had to go to an 8 degree to keep spin off and really struggle to hit the driver on off days....
I would be more than willing to bet he has a negative attack angle........
How the hell is he hitting a 10.5 or 11.5 with a 65 gram shaft? Do they tip it 8 inches???
I am thinking he must have a 10.5 that is cast really open???

Id love to have the forgiveness of higher lofted head but into the wind I hit parachuters.....
Anyone got any input on this?????

My experience is you can only affect spin so much with shafts until you have to decrease loft.....

I had a titleist head 9.5 and tried 20 different shat an tipping schemes and always poofed it into the wind

Finally I got an 8 from hoss and its a penetrating ball flight but much harder to hit and turn over.... The titleist was a retail head

Do these guys go higher loft and really open to get penetrating trajectory?

Seems its the same thing Michelson has always fought ...... going to real low lofts to keep spin down

even my super deep 9.5 into the wind hits poofers

any thoughts???

I see these guys like Westwood and Dustin Johnson hitting these high lofted drivers and it makes me wanna cry

Edited by mjl, 20 June 2013 - 09:43 PM.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:54 PM

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Id love to have the forgiveness of higher lofted head but into the wind I hit parachuters.....
Anyone got any input on this?????

I see these guys like Westwood and Dustin Johnson hitting these high lofted drivers and it makes me wanna cry


Two words mjl...

SPIN LOFT

That's the angle created between the club direction (AoA) and the club oreientation (Dynamic Loft). The greater that angle is, the
more spin there will be imparted to the ball. I would bet Westwood has a flat AoA (zero degrees) and he keeps the delivered loft
from being increased with his release.

If you want to lower spin and avoid that parachute ball flight, control the angle between your AoA and dynamic loft at impact. You
can effect the spin loft with a lower lofted driver, but, if your swing has a tendency to produce a higher degree of spin loft, you'll
get too much spin anyways. A really stiff shaft and low lofted club can be effective in reducing spin, but, for a lot of amateurs who
have good swing speed and a high spin loft, it's really just a band aid solution.

Flatten out that AoA and control that delivered dynamic loft at impact and hit the ball on the right place of the club face and you'll
never balloon another tee shot again. That's assuming you have a quality shaft/club/ball setup.

Plenty of information to be had on the internet...just google "Spin Loft" and click on images and you'll see plenty on the subject.
You can then go to the web pages from the pics to get further explanatioins.

Here's a video that explains spin loft...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCgkXvJYlw
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:17 PM

Two words mjl...

SPIN LOFT

That's the angle created between the club direction (AoA) and the club oreientation (Dynamic Loft). The greater that angle is, the
more spin there will be imparted to the ball. I would bet Westwood has a flat AoA (zero degrees) and he keeps the delivered loft
from being increased with his release.

If you want to lower spin and avoid that parachute ball flight, control the angle between your AoA and dynamic loft at impact. You
can effect the spin loft with a lower lofted driver, but, if your swing has a tendency to produce a higher degree of spin loft, you'll
get too much spin anyways. A really stiff shaft and low lofted club can be effective in reducing spin, but, for a lot of amateurs who
have good swing speed and a high spin loft, it's really just a band aid solution.

Flatten out that AoA and control that delivered dynamic loft at impact and hit the ball on the right place of the club face and you'll
never balloon another tee shot again. That's assuming you have a quality shaft/club/ball setup.

Plenty of information to be had on the internet...just google "Spin Loft" and click on images and you'll see plenty on the subject.
You can then go to the web pages from the pics to get further explanatioins.

Here's a video that explains spin loft...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCgkXvJYlw

You think Westwood is flat Aoa?

I would think he's hitting down but maybe not

I heard tour average is -1, I'm about -2

I saw somehwere Justin rose was playing 9.3 and 6 degrees open maybe ??!

I'm thinking they gotta all be opening the shot out of their drivers
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:35 PM

You think Westwood is flat Aoa?

I would think he's hitting down but maybe not

I heard tour average is -1, I'm about -2

I saw somehwere Justin rose was playing 9.3 and 6 degrees open maybe ??!

I'm thinking they gotta all be opening the shot out of their drivers


I'm pretty sure that Rose's specs for the face angle are including the sole dial being set open on his R1 which does not affect loft. So, his head isn't delofted as you would think.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

I'm pretty sure that Rose's specs for the face angle are including the sole dial being set open on his R1 which does not affect loft. So, his head isn't delofted as you would think.

Hoss

Do you think that may be accurate as to the trend on tour? Higher loft but more open faces to flatten out trajectory or no?

I cant believe Lee Westwood could hit an 11.5.

I heard nick watney hits a 12 and he can move it
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:44 PM

Hoss

Do you think that may be accurate as to the trend on tour? Higher loft but more open faces to flatten out trajectory or no?

I cant believe Lee Westwood could hit an 11.5.

I heard nick watney hits a 12 and he can move it



I saw a spec sheet that someone posted a long time ago, claiming that Tiger is actually hitting close to 11* loft driver despite it's stamped 8.5* on the head.

I do agree that it is all the result of your swing and tendencies. Getting the right shaft-head combo worked, but it can only help you so much.

IMO the easiest way if to fix your -ve AoA and check your impact point on the face of your driver. I do not think -2 AoA alone will create a a parachute. Just my 2-cents
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:10 PM

I saw a spec sheet that someone posted a long time ago, claiming that Tiger is actually hitting close to 11* loft driver despite it's stamped 8.5* on the head.

I do agree that it is all the result of your swing and tendencies. Getting the right shaft-head combo worked, but it can only help you so much.

IMO the easiest way if to fix your -ve AoA and check your impact point on the face of your driver. I do not think -2 AoA alone will create a a parachute. Just my 2-cents

Ill tell you what else I think is crazy is that with all the movements in a golf swing that a 1 degree difference in driver loft can consistently make such a dramatic difference in flight and performance.

I mean think about all the factors and movements coming into impact and 1 degree makes a difference.....

That's frickin nuts to me....

And no Im not stoned right now....

Edited by mjl, 21 June 2013 - 08:12 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 08:14 AM

Now that RIP iron shafts are taking over this boards buzz, does anyone have feedback on the new Aldila ATX shafts specifically the blue?
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:00 AM

D, I'm playing the ATX blue 85 tx flex in my stage 2 hl 3wood. was playing the di8x. feel is the same to me, but on my trackman, little higher launch and little less spin. after about 40 balls each going back and forth, 9 carry yards on average with the blue, but the dispersion was significantly better with blue. im one of the lucky few with a rouge (#29 of 50) thats in my sldr 10.5. now that combo is completely ridiculous
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