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Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:46 AM

We have a season-long, two man best ball tournament at our club. Tuesday eve my partner and I won our match 5&3. I shot 67, which is the best round I've ever played. I missed two fairways and one green all night, with a 3 putt and the one missed green causing the only two blemishes on the card. Every iron was dead at the flag. With each dart thrown, my buddies who were our opponents were having a fit and it was great. With the sun going down, the match completed, they wanted to get in the full 18 because they knew what I had going. I was 3 Under the last 4 holes, almost holing out on the 16th from the fairway and almost a hole in one on the par 3 last. It was an awesome night.

 

I've really struggled the last two seasons. Handicap went from 1 to now a 4 and my scores are all over the map. At 59 I've been wondering if my best golf is behind me. Now I know it's not. It's in there. I just need to bring it out. July 4th shot 70, now this! Funny thing is, one of the buddies I beat the other night is the one who a few weeks ago noticed a bad takeaway move and helped me fix it. He wasn't happy getting beat, but was supportive of the round I played. It was so much better doing it in front of friends who are good competitors, versus a couple of mopes who would have been downers to play with. Last night was league night, word had gotten out and I was getting a lot of shouts. Fun times!

 

Now... to see if I can keep the magic flowing this weekend in our club championship. I've taken second several times and face some stiff competition again, with several plus handicappers in the field.


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:32 AM

That's awesome! Other than winning a tournament, shooting your career low round is the best feeling in golf. It's been quite a few years since my career low, but I still recall every shot. Congrats and keep it the good play going!!!



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:09 PM

Now that is what I call a Great round of  Golf!  67 is a great score. Period.

 

Interesting you said that "It's in there, Now I have to let it go".    True.  How often do we talk negatively about golf and other things in life...

I discovered  this at a teenager one day, when  we went out to our local executive course.  I wanted desperately to get a hole in one.  Well, to my disappointment, I hit the pin a number of times that day. Not happy.  After the round, my friends said, standing inside next to the owner/pro, Hey Pat, didn't get that hole in one, but you tied the course record!  Pros reaction was interesting.  His number.   Big deal...  Just wanted that hole in one. Years later, looking back, it was one positive thought through out the day -

Just one -- hit it in the hole.  Some say "Take dead aim",  mind over matter, see the shot, etc.  Somehow, for me, it just works.   I don't ask, I just go with it!  

 

Anyway, it's great hearing about your record round!  

 

Keep us posted , I believe more great rounds are coming your way!

 

There is no such thing as Luck.

 

 

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:35 AM

Bing: Right on! You  make your own luck!

 

The club championship was all Jekyll and Hyde for me. Saturday made bogie after every birdie. Sunday made 10 straight pars before becoming discombobulated. Frustrating, but old habits take a while to work out of the system. When I take the club back properly the result is good. When the old habit creeps in, it's not. 

 

I got ribbed all weekend long, because I was paired both days with guys who hit it way past me. One was a 16 year old kid who is maybe 125 lbs dripping wet. Sunday I told them that I loved it because my normal round in league or playing couples, is I tee off, then go right to help someone look for a ball, then left to help another, then watch as each player hits 2-3 more shots before I get to play my second. This weekend I often hit my tee shot, then was first to hit from the fairway, which makes for a much better rhythm. 

 

Next up is our annual grudge match against the club from across town. We play rounds of fourball, foresomes and singles. It's one of my favorite outings of the year. Good golf and I love the team atmosphere. Last year we beat them at their club, then drank in their bar after they all left.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:44 AM

Bing: Right on! You  make your own luck!

 

The club championship was all Jekyll and Hyde for me. Saturday made bogie after every birdie. Sunday made 10 straight pars before becoming discombobulated. Frustrating, but old habits take a while to work out of the system. When I take the club back properly the result is good. When the old habit creeps in, it's not. 

 

I got ribbed all weekend long, because I was paired both days with guys who hit it way past me. One was a 16 year old kid who is maybe 125 lbs dripping wet. Sunday I told them that I loved it because my normal round in league or playing couples, is I tee off, then go right to help someone look for a ball, then left to help another, then watch as each player hits 2-3 more shots before I get to play my second. This weekend I often hit my tee shot, then was first to hit from the fairway, which makes for a much better rhythm. 

 

Next up is our annual grudge match against the club from across town. We play rounds of fourball, foresomes and singles. It's one of my favorite outings of the year. Good golf and I love the team atmosphere. Last year we beat them at their club, then drank in their bar after they all left.

That's fantastic!  I got motivated again by reading about your 67 and watching Mr. Hogan at age 74 hit irons/ drivers on Youtube!  If you have a chance, check that video out.  Poor quality but the essence of the swing is still there and so are his positions.  Inspiring!!!

 

Yesterday, I carried two drivers, never a good idea.  Finally went with the Cobra and it really paid off.  Had the Bettinardi reweighed and gripped back to the Garsen, felt great but putting distances were way off.  Wife even commented:  "Gee, You are supposed to be a good Putter, What happened!?!" The round and conversation went down hill from there.  Luckily there weren't any dinner plates around on 16 after a little discussion on taking the pin and not walking on the line of the anticipated second putt.  Called the "flying plate discussion"...   Played well for not having picked up a club for a while since I have been super busy with the work thing.  

 

So, ended up walking off 18.  Better not to say anything -- I might have to buy a new driver!

 

I would say Good Luck for your grudge match but I don't think you need it!

 

 

Bing


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:58 AM

Wives always know when to say the right thing at the right time! Husbands, though, NEVER say the right thing...

 

Events in a typical round with my wife:

Walking to the range: Her: "I don't want you telling me what to do today". Me: "OK."

Three swings into her warmup, after three duffed shots: Her: "What am I doing wrong?". Me" "Just keep swinging, you're not even warmed up yet". 

A few minutes later: Her: "What am I doing wrong?". Me: "What are the things I tell you every time we play? Square your feet to the target." Her: "I am". Me: No. You're not or the ball wouldn't be going so far right with that weak slice." Her: "You don't have to be such an asshole about it." I now go mute until we're several holes into the round.

Around the second or third hole: Her: "What should I hit here?". Me: "How far does your GPS say you have?" Her: "70 yards". Me: "what club to you hit from 70 yards?". Her: "You're not helping.".

Another hole, or two later she's got a sand wedge into the green, a shot she can hit pretty well. Of course, she only takes the club back about halfway, hits a shot that only covers half the distance. Her: "Damn!". Me: "It would help if you took a full swing, not a half swing". She doesn't say a thing, but I get the old stink eye as steam comes out of her ears.

 

 

You see how this goes. It's a lose, lose proposition for us.


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:43 AM

Wives always know when to say the right thing at the right time! Husbands, though, NEVER say the right thing...

 

Events in a typical round with my wife:

Walking to the range: Her: "I don't want you telling me what to do today". Me: "OK."

Three swings into her warmup, after three duffed shots: Her: "What am I doing wrong?". Me" "Just keep swinging, you're not even warmed up yet". 

A few minutes later: Her: "What am I doing wrong?". Me: "What are the things I tell you every time we play? Square your feet to the target." Her: "I am". Me: No. You're not or the ball wouldn't be going so far right with that weak slice." Her: "You don't have to be such an asshole about it." I now go mute until we're several holes into the round.

Around the second or third hole: Her: "What should I hit here?". Me: "How far does your GPS say you have?" Her: "70 yards". Me: "what club to you hit from 70 yards?". Her: "You're not helping.".

Another hole, or two later she's got a sand wedge into the green, a shot she can hit pretty well. Of course, she only takes the club back about halfway, hits a shot that only covers half the distance. Her: "Damn!". Me: "It would help if you took a full swing, not a half swing". She doesn't say a thing, but I get the old stink eye as steam comes out of her ears.

 

 

You see how this goes. It's a lose, lose proposition for us.

Well, things are back to normal around the Bing household... Back to "work" and other diversions.

 

Golf together for us just never seems to work.  Probably the most "frigid air" during our 41 years of marriage.  

 

I remember telling Paul Runyan  him that my wife thought I was playing really well. Trying to complement him.  He said "Well, maybe you should be taking lessons from your wife!" -- Ouch!!!  Tough guy.  

 

After the shoe incident, we became friends.  Funny.  I'll have to write down some of my experiences with him.  

 

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 09:06 AM

I've found that giving my wife swing advice is a bad idea. She never practices so ingraining a new concept is practically impossible under the gun.

 

 

I just reserve my compliments for solid shots and good putts - she is a good putter and pool player.

 

 

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:33 AM

My wife is like most people who play some golf. They don't practice, but expect better results each time out. She would shave 1 stroke per hole if she practiced her short game, even a little. I hate giving her advice when we play. It's the same thing every time, as she has the same swing flaws that creep in, such as the alignment issue I mentioned in the narrative above. She's new to the game. Never played any sports growing up and only took up golf after our kids were out of the house. She's gotten much better and enjoys it now.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:30 PM

My wife on the other hand after only a few range sessions and lessons that I gave her broke 100 in the first and only round of golf that she has ever played and shot in the 40's on the back nine. Has not hit a golf ball since then and that was about 7 years ago. I'm fine with her not wanting to be a golfer and that she couldn't care less about having talent, but seeing that would drive most people who love golf nuts. Definitely pays to be a good athlete with hand eye coordination plus she had the right equipment and a good caddy. :D



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Posted 09 March 2018 - 09:15 AM

We ended up losing our team match last September. I played like horse$h!t. Won in alternating shot. The fourball was a joke. It was close but our opponents pulled some shit on us. Long story, but I told their pro and ours that if I'm ever paired against either of them again I'm walking off. Life's too short to play with a$$holes. My singles match was against a guy I know and have won some scrambles with. He holds the course record at one of our local public courses and can play. I was struggling when my buddy from our match play tourney comes up, gets in my face and proceeds to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I asked where he'd been all weekend because the same stuff had crept back into my swing. Pissed, I'm down 3 with 5 to play. Next hole stripe one off the tee and hit the second close. Miss the birdie, but it was a good hole. Par 5 #15 I miss an eagle chance but birdie to win the hole. #16 I pound one down the middle. Opponent is nervous, as he's played with me when I get on a roll. He hooks his into the woods. He's in frickin jail. Damned if he doesn't hit in through a 1 foot gap in the trees to 4' and makes birdie. Match over. 

 

My wife and I were in Florida a few weeks ago and got in a couple rounds. Despite her not having picked up a club all winter, except to putt with me in the basement a little, she had her best nine ever. Like I've been telling her, she cut that one shot per hole by chipping and putting well. Next time out she putted like she'd never done it before.

 

It's a nice, robin's egg blue sky day here in Wisconsin. Might reach into the 30's. I'm tired of hitting into a net. Can't wait for spring and hopefully we'll be open in 4-5 weeks. Next week's forecast says some days into the 40's. Bring it on!


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 10:36 PM

I have to say,  this is one of the most excellent posts of all time!  HaHa.

 

Although, I would like to critique your use of the word a$$hole(s).  Since I have given up cursing, golf season doesn't officially start for me until this Monday, we'll see, I think the term 

"human orifice" is now a new part of my vocabulary -- HAHAHA! 

 

I had a 3 rounds down in Monterey, California and one up North.  it was windy as ____!  Played with a couple of guys a lot younger and they hit their 5 irons past my drives.  But, they couldn't chip or putt worth a ___!  Fun though and really nice folks.  

 

Another older gent was at the range the first morning  and was complaining  about the wind... Said he was getting ready to play Bandon later this spring.  "All set to play 5 courses in a row!"  Well, no carts there and this is like a light breeze... Oh boy...

 

Anyway, the first round was straight out of the truck, no warm up and putted like a mad man.  Go figure.  11 putts for 9 and a chip in on the back.  2 drivers in the bag. Mizuno and Ping. Feeling good  Dead solid with the Mizuno which has a nice  was high draw which was the last time that ----- worked. 

 

Rained hard and found the cover on the truck leaked into the cab and the I Mac was a wee bit soggy.  S--T!  there goes my MP18's.  Mrs. Hogan won't like this!  Two weeks without a Mac -- sucks.  Oh, well.

 

I hope the weather will turn for you soon.  Just be glad your not back in the North East!  Always the worst snow this time of the year back there.  

 

Tomorrow a short conditioning ride with Jan and range time in the afternoon.  Sunday putting and chipping for a few hours and Monday, 70 degrees!  

 

Alway Great reading your posts!  

 

 

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 08:29 AM

Bing: It's still winter here. Very much so.

 

Our pro says best case scenario for opening would be April 6 and he hopes it isn't later than the 16th.

 

We have a cottage up in Vilas County, near the border with Michigan. That area gets lake effect snows off Lake Superior. Last weekend we had a group of 11 at our place for ice fishing. We got 3 4WD pickups stuck in the deep snow trying to drive out onto the lake. This Saturday I finished trimming out the bedroom I've been working on through the winter. Looking out the window I see something off in the woods. Got my binoculars and confirm what I thought, a fresh deer carcass.  Later I strapped on the snow shoes and trudged over to see how the coyotes and crows had worked it over. It was tough going. Even with snow shoes I sunk up to my knees. It was work just going out 100 yards and back.

 

Yesterday afternoon I went skiing with a friend. It's been something like 16 years since I've gone. I taught my girls when they were young, but they quit when they got heavy into dance in high school. Then I ruptured the L5-S1 disk in my back and for a long time have been afraid to do a lot of things. It was like riding a bike and I had a lot of fun. But I abused some muscles I haven't used in a long time. Really felt the burn in the quads towards the bottom each run. I figured for sure I'd really feel it this morning, but got in my regular early morning workout. I guess I'm in better shape than I thought I was.

 

Funny part about the skiing, every woman I told I was going figured I'd get hurt. The guys all said "cool, have fun".


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 10:00 AM

Wow!!!  

 

Growing up in NE Ohio, winters were pretty bad but what the heck did we know...  Did a lot of XC skiing but no downhill.  

 

When I moved to Oregon, I did some downhill in Bend, Oregon but usually in spring in a tee shirt and shorts.  A lot of backcountry near bend and Crater Lake.  A small pack with a sandwich and more than a few beers.  Telemarking the bowls was just  awesome!  Sometimes a 2 or 3 day overnight into the back country in waist high powder...

 

At Mt. Hood, we would start above the Palmer lift and ski down to Government Camp on back country trails which was a little over 5 miles.   Bats out of H-ll!  Probably why I have bad knees.

 

Wisconsin has all the great things that I love: Golf, Fishing (brown trout), canoeing, XC skiing, cycling (Trek bikes), Packers and Beer!  

Around here XC skiing and cycling is usually straight up and then DOWN!  No NFL here  (wouldn't want someone to get offended by a Raiders sticker or something). 

 

This year, I am slowing working on  setting up a bike trip from Montana down to Idaho.  About 90 miles on an old railway.  I told her we could do it in one day and ride it down hill!

Don't think thats going to  fly.  All my friends are a bunch of wimps and won't ride.  Just want to sit around and talk at the coffee shop. Yada, Yada, Yada.  AND their wives won't let them!  

 

My best friend that  I did all our our trips with to Montana, etc., and golfed with occasionally, (his wife was against golf) passed a couple of years ago, and lived on a golf course! Brightest person and lawyer I have ever met.  Mountain climber, rock climber, sailboat competitor. He was one of the most daring men I have ever met! I go up to YNP and fish the same spots and it's a bit strange.  He was a true friend and brother.  Almost went to jail in Pinedale, Wyoming...  that was close...

 

One day I gave him the Hogan book... He was off and running. Started critiquing me!  "Your off plane, finish you finish!"

Saying from him was:  "Well, Hogan said"...  Wife wasn't too happy.  And then there were the divots in the back yard... 

 

Anyway, sorry to ramble...

 

Hey, how but that TIGER!

 

BING


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:13 AM

What is it with some women? Some years ago I worked with a guy, same age, also married with two little kids at home. One day he asked me "How do you get away with doing all the stuff you do?". I asked him to clarify and he explained that I had a wife and kids, but still hunted, fished, etc. [I only played a few nine hole rounds of golf in those days]. I told him that hunting and fishing was a part of me, something that I'd done all my life. I didn't do nearly as much as I'd like because I had family responsibilities. but no way was I going to quit completely. He had a whiny, sniveling, shrew of a wife. The only free time he had was one fishing trip a year with her dad and brother. She couldn't say no to her dad inviting him along.

 

My daughters grew up outdoors with me. We didn't have much money and camping was cheap weekend activity. They can shoot and used to tag along with me and my Setter bird hunting. We did a lot of fishing together. One of my fondest memories was walleye fishing with them when they were something like 9 and 10. The first time they baited their own hooks, casted, hooked the fish, netted them for each other and took the fish off the hook, all on their own. I taught them to ski and golf. We still play golf when together. My avatar picture was taken in Orange County, CA, while out visiting daughter #2, who lived in Huntington Beach at the time. 

 

I'm very blessed. 34 years with the same woman, who is very understanding and puts up with a lot of my $h!t. Raised two kids to be responsible, capable adults. We've had an empty nest for a while and enjoy it. She took up golf for me, almost quit, but stuck with it and we enjoy having that to do together. Last night I came home from work and she was in my workshop putting on the little strip of carpet I have down there.

 

Having a bad disk in my back, I follow Tigers progress from that perspective. I've avoided surgery for 8 years and now am the best I've been in that time. It will be interesting to see how long his back holds up. I think if it does he's going to win and probably a couple more majors.

 

I played the simulator at the club after work yesterday. It was fun, but I'm tired of beating balls into a net. Can't wait for the snow to melt.

 

I think at our ages we've earned the right to ramble a little now and then... This site has been pretty quiet. At least I've got you and Tex to jaw with once in a while.

 

The bike trip sounds awesome. I hope you're able to make it happen. 

 

Take care,

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Posted 23 March 2018 - 03:06 PM

I guess its just some guys nature to be a little passive and then get trampled at home... 

 

My friend, after 2 weeks fishing in Montana, would dread coming back to cleaning toilets, scraping paint, gardening (boring $h!+) basically penance. He asked me the same.  

 

I dreaded yard work since I was a kid.  As punishment for divots, broken windows and the like. I had to weed the back yard, ON SATURDAY MORNINGS!  Then on the farm during the summers. Why do they get up so early, I would say...  Cows don't know the time, city kid... Yeah right..  I usually took off after about 30 minutes of this crap.  Hated it!

There's Baseball and Golf!  And being Catholic, the countdown... Only 23 Hail Marys to go and I'll be right out!  True...

 

My wife knows this and suggests that the lawn is looking a bit shaggy. After 42 years, she know not to give me a chore list.  Oh, look how wonderful Lloyds lawn looks... here we go... When we were first married and had a house, she got on me about changing a light bulb.  Serious nudging.  After 2 years, I finally got to it. HaHa. 

 

I see this in our new crop of guys coming up.  I am not sure why they look more feminine than their girlfriends or wives but I think this maybe the problem.  Somebody has to lead.

So women have to take over.  Just my observation.  My wife agrees.  

 

I remember when flying on business trips years ago,  guys were talking about cars, guns, where to fish, skiing and a little golf.  Now its texting, twittering, and I must say these are the most out of shape lazy @$$'s I have ever seen.  

Heard a woman say that her boyfriend is now finally happy with his phone... Oh S--T!...

 

Anyway, my yearly rant is just about to begin.  More on this later...

 

 

Thanks for listening,

 

 

Pat 


Edited by BingHogan, 23 March 2018 - 03:19 PM.

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