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#1 Mr C

 
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 06:22 AM

Hi,

I'm getting real confused about the type of putter for I right handed player with left eye dominance. I know the best advice is to try out putters and see what works, but I am interested to understand the opinions regarding putter design that should 'in theory' suite RH left eye dominant players. Particularly around the hosel (offset or none) and placement (center or heal)?

Any suggested putters worth a try would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:04 AM

The only information about thid subject that I'm aware of is on Rife Putters website. So quality information is there. Good luck.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:56 AM

i'm in the same boat that you are. right hand/left eye dominant. i consider myself an above average putter. here are the ones that i have tried with success: 8802, redx2, modena 8, spider, odyssey black series i #9. as you can see all over the board. i am going to check out the rife site as well and see what info is out there. IMO you have to go with what looks good to your eye and a putter that you don't have to think about mechanics. that is probably the reason why i have gone back to more of a blade/heel shafted putter. wanted to take out the perfect mechanics and just roll the f$#king rock. guess what? it worked - making putts from everywhere.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 09:53 AM

i'm in the same boat that you are. right hand/left eye dominant. i consider myself an above average putter. here are the ones that i have tried with success: 8802, redx2, modena 8, spider, odyssey black series i #9. as you can see all over the board. i am going to check out the rife site as well and see what info is out there. IMO you have to go with what looks good to your eye and a putter that you don't have to think about mechanics. that is probably the reason why i have gone back to more of a blade/heel shafted putter. wanted to take out the perfect mechanics and just roll the f$#king rock. guess what? it worked - making putts from everywhere.


You guys should feel lucky to be RH golfer and left Eye dominant.Most great players are this way
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:08 PM

funny you mention that. i agree - i am lucky. don't know exactly how it has benefited me because it is all that i know - but i definitely see things different that ALL of my right handed right eye dominant friends.

now if i was really lucky i would live in arizona like you and make a run at some real golf against some aspiring competition!
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 01:36 PM

i'm also right-handed, left-eye dominant...haven't checked out what rife site says, but from my experience i prefer heel-shafted blade to mid-mallet putters. i feel very lucky to own the bettinardi Tour EI Special, which has been by far the best putter i've ever owned. i just got back in from a round this morning where the putter got hot and i rolled in six birdies! not sure how the cross-dominants are supposed to impact golf, but i believe it made a big difference when i was younger playing baseball because my dominant eye would pick up the ball quickly. good luck finding the right putter!
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 03:38 PM

Its interesting because I usually figure its more about your stroke and what type of neck, weight, etc fits. Never really thought about left or right eye dominance.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 05:09 PM

Its interesting because I usually figure its more about your stroke and what type of neck, weight, etc fits. Never really thought about left or right eye dominance.



Yes, I've always thought so too, but it is very interesting to read about the subject - much of which comes from rifle or archery based material. It's curious what Rife Putters have to say about it, as I've always suspected the amount of offset to be related to eye dominance:

'Q. What is the difference in offset and Non-offset?
A.Sometimes, it is personal preference as far as the look of the putter is set up. For alignment purposes and for proper set up, the idea is to get the person's eyes to be directly over the ball, particularly the player's dominant eye. For a right-handed player who has a dominant left eye, the eye closest to the hole, we would typically fit them with a straight shafted putter because that puts their dominant eye over the ball. For a person who is right eye dominant, the eye furthest from the hole, we would give them an offset shaft. Putting the ball under the dominant eye helps the player line up the putt with more accuracy . Offset putters typically help golfers keep their hands in front of the ball at impact and promotes less break down in the wrists.'
[Rife Putters FAQ]

There's just so much choice in the market today, and I'm finding it tough to decifer what suits best. I'm starting to feel the way Swanry30 does, and just want to go back to basics with something that looks simple and clean at address.
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:54 PM

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jack would tilt his head so his dominant eye could focus carefully... there is a bit to this and as it applies to putters and putting there seems to be one thought floating around that should to be credited to Mr Stockton and his recent work with various LPG player and Phil... so as I understand this the comment is no amount of technology (moi/face balanced etc) will make a poor putter a great one..all the great putters have used essentially the same equipment and a good stroke is a good stroke... learn to use a forward press if you like but most importantly open the face and close it down on impact... and if you are already putting well don't mess with it...I was taught to play by a former lpga tour winner and within the first 6 lessons she tested my eyes and explained a bunch of things about this dominent eye thing to me and why it is important... seems any good coach would be able to do this... Anyway, if you need to get your putting in order..buy a new toe weighted, half or full offset weapon from any of the great names that make putters and go to work with the arc and a boomerang in your garage! ... then there is Fax who says he putts well cause he really likes to "make 'em" (my kinda guy) he has three "identical" cammies he keep fairly meticulous records to see which one performs the best...like it's the putter...well it does help... as Butchie says, "make a change. any change. If you are changing putters make it a dramatic change." ... we should all practice a little with a bullseye!
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Posted 20 November 2009 - 11:32 PM

Once I'm finally lined up it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. I just make the stroke and keep my
head completely still well after impact, without looking at anything in particular. Just sorta looking
down towards the ground. Gotta keep the head rock steady through impact, IMO.

Hit the sweet spot with a square face along with a still head and putts will be made. Especially the short ones.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 03:39 PM

I am RH and left eye dominant. While I stroke every type of putter the same with just strong putting fundamentals and practice I do find my my alignment easier with a non-offset type putter with a inline shaft. I currently play the Odyssey Black i 9 which falls under this putter type. I have also had alot of success with the SeeMore FGP series.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 11:48 PM

Once I'm finally lined up it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. I just make the stroke and keep my
head completely still well after impact, without looking at anything in particular. Just sorta looking
down towards the ground. Gotta keep the head rock steady through impact, IMO.

Hit the sweet spot with a square face along with a still head and putts will be made. Especially the short ones.


think this deserves an underlining.. the head needs to stay still... maybe not until the ball is in the hole, but any replay of Tiger putting will show the amount of time he takes after impact when his head is motionless... has a rhythm to the everything. 1, 2 and 3, 4... then he looks up...or is it 1, 2 pause and then 3... playing Dixie double 4 time. for you Knophler fans..Sultans of Swing
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Posted 24 November 2009 - 10:01 PM

What I have read is, for a right handed player:

(1) If you are left eye dominant---generally best results are obtained aligning your eyes inside the putting line and using an inside---square---inside stroke.

(2) If you are right eye dominant---generally best results are obtained aligning your eyes over the putting line and using a SBST stroke.

I believe that Scotty Cameron published test results which showed this. Crenshaw, Faxon, and Leonard obviously line up inside the line and use an in to in stroke very effectively.

Of course we all know that each player is different, and generalities are just that---generalities.

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 12:20 PM

What I have read is, for a right handed player:

(1) If you are left eye dominant---generally best results are obtained aligning your eyes inside the putting line and using an inside---square---inside stroke.

(2) If you are right eye dominant---generally best results are obtained aligning your eyes over the putting line and using a SBST stroke.

I believe that Scotty Cameron published test results which showed this. Crenshaw, Faxon, and Leonard obviously line up inside the line and use an in to in stroke very effectively.

Of course we all know that each player is different, and generalities are just that---generalities.

Texsport



I've started practicing with a inside - square - inside stroke and I'm finding this more natural than a SBST that I have previously always worked on. I need to get fixed up with a toe weighted putter. The odyssey black series i #9 looks nice and I intend to try it out asap! If anyone any recomendations for a good toe weighted putter please let me know!

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 01:30 PM

I've started practicing with a inside - square - inside stroke and I'm finding this more natural than a SBST that I have previously always worked on. I need to get fixed up with a toe weighted putter. The odyssey black series i #9 looks nice and I intend to try it out asap! If anyone any recomendations for a good toe weighted putter please let me know!

Steve


Steve, I belive you actually need a heel weighted putter, but the more toe hang---the easier it is to release the toe.

The toe hang has more to do with the shaft position relative to the sweet spot. that's why heel shafted putters frequently have 6:00 toe hang.

Some players, including Tour players, use putters with adjustable sole weights. To increase the toe release, they put a slightly heavier weight in the heel side.

This is just like adding lead tape to an iron or wood club. Lead tape toward the heel helps the club to rotate around the shaft. Lead tape near the toe makes it harder to close the toe.

A little experimentation is always good and good luck with the new stroke!

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 08:12 AM

You guys really have me thinking now. I am right handed left eye dominant. I have putted with the spyder for a while, but finally took it out of the bag about 8 months ago, because I couldn't stand the bulky look.

I am now putting with a 35" Yes Abbie forged. When I first started out with the putter I putted great. Over time I have added lead tape to the bottom of the putter and back of the face. My days are in and out on putting well, but I am wondering if the lead tape is helping or hurting me?

I rather a heavier putter.

I have really tried to copy Steve Strickers putting stroke. I like to get my eyes right over the putter head and almost set the putter on its toe at address. My putting stroke is straight back and straight forward. I also use a cross grip/2 thumb grip.

I wonder if I need to go to a straight shaft putter with all of this said?

One problem I do have is a flip my wrist at some times at impact, which gives me a nasty bounce at times. I have gone to the Yes putter because it has the less of loft of the putters I have seen. 2.5* is what I have and it appears most putters are 4*.

What are your thoughts?
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 11:43 AM

If you really want to study Cross Laterality, study this carefully---but be careful!

http://pages.prodigy...htm#Hemispheric

Here's a discussion about shooting rifles and pistols by cross dominant people.

http://www.professio...read.php?t=3109

It seems that you can aim with either eye, but if you use your non-dominant eye, it seems to help if you close your dominant eye during aiming.

If this is true, left eye/ right handed putters might put their eyes over the line and aim with their left eyes closed. :blink:

Here's a recent Golf Digest article on putter optics/aiming devices.

http://www.golfdiges...r?currentPage=1


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 08:29 PM

I'm really thinking about giving the Scotty Cameron Studio 2.6 a try. Only thing that putter is a little toe weighted I think. If I go through with the purchase I plan to send back to Scotty Shop to get lofted to 2.5 and get some site lines added.
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Posted 02 December 2009 - 09:07 PM

Once I'm finally lined up it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. I just make the stroke and keep my
head completely still well after impact, without looking at anything in particular. Just sorta looking
down towards the ground. Gotta keep the head rock steady through impact, IMO.

Hit the sweet spot with a square face along with a still head and putts will be made. Especially the short ones.



But how do you know you are lined up correctly???
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 01:17 PM

I got interested in this subject last spring after reading several forum messages and a couple of articles on the web. I, too, am right-handed/left-eye dominant, and the different sites (can't remember now) recommended no offset putters. I purchased a SeeMore FGP and have never putted better. I sent my brother-in-law to the same places (I know one of them was a small putter company), and the visual tests told him half offset. He picked up a half offset Yes!, and his putting got better almost instantly. The discussions seemed to point to better alignment based on dominant eye over the ball (as some posted earlier).

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Posted 09 December 2009 - 02:50 PM

But how do you know you are lined up correctly???



You could try one of those lasers which you attach to the putter.

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Posted 09 December 2009 - 03:24 PM

Once I'm finally lined up it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. I just make the stroke and keep my
head completely still well after impact, without looking at anything in particular. Just sorta looking
down towards the ground. Gotta keep the head rock steady through impact, IMO.

Hit the sweet spot with a square face along with a still head and putts will be made. Especially the short ones.


But how do you know you are lined up correctly???


When I hit it and it goes in the hole!! :D
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