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Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:27 PM

I see Graphite Design has added a new shaft in the Tour AD line, the AD BB. I spoke to my sales rep and he said it is designed to have a flatter trajectory than the DI and DJ models. Wondering if anyone out there has had a chance to hit one yet, and, if so, curious to see what your take was on it. They will have them at the PGA Show demo day and I'll get the chance to try them then.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 09:47 AM

Anybody hit this yet?
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:53 AM

I just ordered a Tour AD BB 6x today. I am going to put it in my tour issue Superfast V2 LCG 8.5 TP head. I am currently playing a Tour AD DI 6x. I will do a write up and compare both shafts after I get some reps in with new shaft! Heard a lot of good things about it.
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9.5* TMaG Tour Issue Superfast V2 TP 2.0 (Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6x) 45.5"
Actual Loft: 9.0* Lie: 58.5* Face Angle: 2.5* Open Weight: 189.6 Grams, 204 Grams W/ HotMelt
14.5* TMaG Tour Issue RBZ "Double Stamp" (Graphite Design Tour AD Quattrotech MD 8x) 43"
Actual Loft: 14.7* Lie: 58.3* Face Angle: 3.0* Open Weight: ,217 Grams W/ HotMelt
19* TMaG Tour Issue TOUR Burner TP PGA #2U (Project X Pxi 6.5) 40.5"
3i-Pw TMaG Tour Issue R9 TPs "B" (KBS C-Tapers X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once) Stanard Length, Lie, Loft
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:14 AM

looking forward to it
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:51 PM

Im very excited to see what results you get
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

Recently purchased the GD Tour AD BB 6s. I've heard everything from this shaft feels the same as the DI with lower spin and trajectory, to this shaft feels boardy. Taking it out for the first time tomorrow. My previous driver shaft was the Diamana Kai'li 70s.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:44 AM

Anybody hit this yet?


I have hit it and just got some in stock. It has a similar feel in terms of the smoothness like DI, but it's a firmer feeling bend profile. So, it has less kick and feels tighter I would say, but not boardy IMO. I would say that the difference in feel between DI and BB is like the difference between DI and DJ, but going the other way. Where DJ has just a little more tip action than DI, BB has that much less if that makes sense. Not many shafts that feel this good for a lower launch profile.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:39 PM

Where you able to hit it on a launch monitor? From everything I have heard and ready, it is suppose to spin about 300-400 rpm less than the DI. I got mine today and I going to get it put in a Superfast TP V2 tour issue head tomorrow. Looking foward to it!
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9.5* TMaG Tour Issue Superfast V2 TP 2.0 (Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6x) 45.5"
Actual Loft: 9.0* Lie: 58.5* Face Angle: 2.5* Open Weight: 189.6 Grams, 204 Grams W/ HotMelt
14.5* TMaG Tour Issue RBZ "Double Stamp" (Graphite Design Tour AD Quattrotech MD 8x) 43"
Actual Loft: 14.7* Lie: 58.3* Face Angle: 3.0* Open Weight: ,217 Grams W/ HotMelt
19* TMaG Tour Issue TOUR Burner TP PGA #2U (Project X Pxi 6.5) 40.5"
3i-Pw TMaG Tour Issue R9 TPs "B" (KBS C-Tapers X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once) Stanard Length, Lie, Loft
3i-225 yds 4i-215 yds 5i-205yds 6i-190 yds 7i-175 yds 8i-160 yds 9i-150 yds Pw-135 yds
Cleveland 51* 588 NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (KBS C-Taper X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once)
Cally 55* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 59* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 63* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
51*-125 yds 55*-110 yds 59*-100 yds 63*-85 yds
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:51 PM

Wonder if this shaft will spin less than the lengendary White Board.
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9.5* TMaG Tour Issue Superfast V2 TP 2.0 (Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6x) 45.5"
Actual Loft: 9.0* Lie: 58.5* Face Angle: 2.5* Open Weight: 189.6 Grams, 204 Grams W/ HotMelt
14.5* TMaG Tour Issue RBZ "Double Stamp" (Graphite Design Tour AD Quattrotech MD 8x) 43"
Actual Loft: 14.7* Lie: 58.3* Face Angle: 3.0* Open Weight: ,217 Grams W/ HotMelt
19* TMaG Tour Issue TOUR Burner TP PGA #2U (Project X Pxi 6.5) 40.5"
3i-Pw TMaG Tour Issue R9 TPs "B" (KBS C-Tapers X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once) Stanard Length, Lie, Loft
3i-225 yds 4i-215 yds 5i-205yds 6i-190 yds 7i-175 yds 8i-160 yds 9i-150 yds Pw-135 yds
Cleveland 51* 588 NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (KBS C-Taper X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once)
Cally 55* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 59* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 63* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
51*-125 yds 55*-110 yds 59*-100 yds 63*-85 yds
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

Where you able to hit it on a launch monitor? From everything I have heard and ready, it is suppose to spin about 300-400 rpm less than the DI. I got mine today and I going to get it put in a Superfast TP V2 tour issue head tomorrow. Looking foward to it!


I haven't hit it on Trackman yet, but will do so shortly as I just got stock of these. So, I'll be doing some in depth testing. I have heard from guys on tour that it spins anywhere from the same as DI to a few hundred rpm less with lower launch than DI. So, we'll see. It definitely had a nice penetrating flight in the RBZ Tour when I hit it on the range.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:13 PM

I thought that this shaft was a High Kickpoint shaft. It is actually a mid kickpoint shaft, check the graphite design web site. With that being said, I am wondering how it is a low-mid flight shaft? Can someone please explain this to me.
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9.5* TMaG Tour Issue Superfast V2 TP 2.0 (Graphite Design Tour AD BB 6x) 45.5"
Actual Loft: 9.0* Lie: 58.5* Face Angle: 2.5* Open Weight: 189.6 Grams, 204 Grams W/ HotMelt
14.5* TMaG Tour Issue RBZ "Double Stamp" (Graphite Design Tour AD Quattrotech MD 8x) 43"
Actual Loft: 14.7* Lie: 58.3* Face Angle: 3.0* Open Weight: ,217 Grams W/ HotMelt
19* TMaG Tour Issue TOUR Burner TP PGA #2U (Project X Pxi 6.5) 40.5"
3i-Pw TMaG Tour Issue R9 TPs "B" (KBS C-Tapers X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once) Stanard Length, Lie, Loft
3i-225 yds 4i-215 yds 5i-205yds 6i-190 yds 7i-175 yds 8i-160 yds 9i-150 yds Pw-135 yds
Cleveland 51* 588 NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (KBS C-Taper X-Flex, Soft Stepped Once)
Cally 55* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 59* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
Cally 63* NoMad WRX - "GTO" Grind, Ported, Machined Square Grooves w/ Black Fog (Rifle Spinner 6.5)
51*-125 yds 55*-110 yds 59*-100 yds 63*-85 yds
Ping Anser Milled 4
TMaG Penta TP5, TMaG Penta, Titleist Pro V1

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:59 PM

I thought that this shaft was a High Kickpoint shaft. It is actually a mid kickpoint shaft, check the graphite design web site. With that being said, I am wondering how it is a low-mid flight shaft? Can someone please explain this to me.



What you see on a simple spec sheet is highly overrated and really doesn't mean a whole lot in reality. Tip stiffness and the overall bend profile cannot really be deteremined from that kind of stuff. Also, one companies idea of a mid kickpoint and another manufacturer's might be pretty different. Also, balance points will have a big effect on trajectory as well. The only thing that most shaft spec sheets are really any good for is weight and even that can feel different due to balance points differences between various shafts. Torque and kick point are almost useless without anything to compare it to.